Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[snapthis]

just bringing this up to this page...

Be careful, really careful when dealing when with Usapians. They lie and cheat.

 

[EastUS1]

Be careful, really careful when dealing when with Usapians. They lie and cheat.

You neglected to mention those universally vile easties also being responsible for burning orphanages and global warming, a surprising omission on your part.

 

[nevergiveup]

This statement needs to be clear-ified.

Lets see just how zealous you are.

You say you liked the sound of some list the east had. So you have seen it and can answer some questions.

Was the mythical list before or after the Nicolau was released?

What "ALPA" lawyers are you talking about? I don't believe Dan Katts is an ALPA lawyer.

What slotting method did it use? LOS?

How were the "ALPA" lawyers amazed. Freund was amazed at the DOH list the east presented. That is not to say he agreed or thought it was in any way fair or workable.

Lastly define "some" furloughed going ahead of active west pilots. Exactly how many furlough pilots do you think was reasonable to go ahead of west active pilots? Give me a number.

The east had 1700 furloughed pilots. If half 800 furloughed pilot were placed ahead of west active pilots that means that 50% of the west pilots would have had a furloughed east pilot senior to them. Is that reasonable and fair or zealous? Would 50 furloughed east pilots made everything ok for you?

The west had a line in the sand. So what the east had your line in the sand. An arbitrator decided. He just decided that your line was erasable, furloughed pilots senior to active pilots was not.

So tell us what you thought was reasonable that you saw the east present.

Before or after the ruling?

Still wanting to cut in line for the east jobs I see. Ho hum...

 

[cleardirect]

Still wanting to cut in line for the east jobs I see. Ho hum...

If there really was just one line and if you east guys could have gotten us to stand in your line you might have been correct.

But the two lines MERGED.

You also totally ignored my questions.

 

[Phoenix]

That discomfort is understandable. Very few, even supposed adults could conversationally accept such "big words" as "Cryhole".

Big word indeed.. And he didn't even use it properly.. Everyone knows "cryhole" is not a person but is rather a place.. A place much like a crib, but not for actual children, but instead for those of the age that would otherwise entitle them to be known as adults.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Be careful, really careful when dealing when with Usapians. They lie and cheat.

Especially the west ones that pretend they are from the east.

 

[Pi brat]

I don't belong to the AFO club. That's an exclusive club located on Woodlawn which will be for lease very soon. I only associate with real union pilots.

Oh, didn't they tell you about it? The PHX chapter is now much larger than they CLT chapter due to upgrades on the east. Tell ya what, let me talk to pre. She is the president and although we banter about on here, that's all in jest. She is actually quite fond of me and is always asking me for flying and child raising advice, moving to Asheville, etc. I'm sure we can get you in, you are definitely qualified.

 

[nevergiveup]

If there really was just one line and if you east guys could have gotten us to stand in your line you might have been correct.

But the two lines MERGED.

You also totally ignored my questions.

Do some research and you can find the answers!

 

[dca319]

Especially the west ones that pretend they are from the east.

Which is everyone that disagrees with you.

 

[AAviator]

<sigh>

 

[Pi brat]

This statement needs to be clear-ified.

Lets see just how zealous you are.

You say you liked the sound of some list the east had. So you have seen it and can answer some questions.

Was the mythical list before or after the Nicolau was released?

What "ALPA" lawyers are you talking about? I don't believe Dan Katts is an ALPA lawyer.

What slotting method did it use? LOS?

How were the "ALPA" lawyers amazed. Freund was amazed at the DOH list the east presented. That is not to say he agreed or thought it was in any way fair or workable.

Lastly define "some" furloughed going ahead of active west pilots. Exactly how many furlough pilots do you think was reasonable to go ahead of west active pilots? Give me a number.

The east had 1700 furloughed pilots. If half 800 furloughed pilot were placed ahead of west active pilots that means that 50% of the west pilots would have had a furloughed east pilot senior to them. Is that reasonable and fair or zealous? Would 50 furloughed east pilots made everything ok for you?

The west had a line in the sand. So what the east had your line in the sand. An arbitrator decided. He just decided that your line was erasable, furloughed pilots senior to active pilots was not.

So tell us what you thought was reasonable that you saw the east present.

Before or after the ruling?

Good Lord clear. We've been through this at least once. Can't you keep up?

Tell ya what. You finish your integrity test and I will go through it. Again.

 

[Pi brat]

just bringing this up to this page...

You will find the definitions are as individual as the pilots. They bend to suit the argument.

 

[AAviator]

Wow. can't even agree on a definition of terminology?

 

[Pi brat]

Wow. can't even agree on a definition of terminology?

It all started with binding.............

 

[AAviator]

lol!

I didn't see that one coming..

Good one!