Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

I love how you cant debate or refute the facts, so you have to resort to lame personal attacks.

One's job does not equate to their knowledge, education or skills.

And like I said Sully was used as a pawn by usapa and he cashed in on his fame, didnt see Skiles nor the three flight attendants cash in on their fame.

So if it makes you feel better to try and attack go for it, I have thick skin.

We need the lavs dumped on B6. I think I hear them calling you back on your board.

 

[700UW]

Go call Jetstream, or hop in the truck and do it yourself.

By the way, my last years at US I was a stock clerk, you know the people that ensure your parts for your plane got to where they were going. Were properly inspected, had the proper documentation and many other things.

Stock Clerk
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22 The work of a Stock Clerk shall consist of storeroom work,
23 including receiving, shipping, checking, inspecting, issuing, inventorying,
24 storing, and warehousing of supplies, equipment and materials, the
25 operation of stores equipment, the preparation and maintenance of required
26 records and reports, and other storeroom work, and to include the inventory
27 portion of the field audit at all Maintenance locations. AOG parts may be
28 transported by Stock Clerks or, at the discretion of the Company, by
29 vendors or other employees of the Company not covered by this
30 Agreement.

And I will put my labor representation skills up against any of you pilots, especially your pos union.

How is it working on wages that were back from 2004?

 

[end_of_alpa]

Go call Jetstream, or hop in the truck and do it yourself.

By the way, my last years at US I was a stock clerk, you know the people that ensure your parts for your plane got to where they were going. Were properly inspected, had the proper documentation and many other things.



And I will put my labor representation skills up against any of you pilots, especially your pos union.

How is it working on wages that were back from 2004?

It's obvious that if you're so called labor representation skills were so great you would be still here. If you were so good why'd you leave?

 

[end_of_alpa]

I love how you cant debate or refute the facts, so you have to resort to lame personal attacks.

One's job does not equate to their knowledge, education or skills.

And like I said Sully was used as a pawn by usapa and he cashed in on his fame, didnt see Skiles nor the three flight attendants cash in on their fame.

So if it makes you feel better to try and attack go for it, I have thick skin.

Seems to me that you're attack on East pilots certainly has no place in debate and facts.

Yet, here you are, once again, spewing your hate and anger, Mr. "Thick skin".

 

[700UW]

I left because of the pension termination and I have a son at home who I have joint custody of and I wasnt going to transfer to keep my job.

Section 1113 C laws screwed us.

I saved many jobs in my career and won some serious arbitration cases, and even received a nastygram from Steven Wolf himself, for my union work that showed his career and how he was a robber baron in the airline industry,

 

[700UW]

How is it an attack when he wasnt a union rep, he even admitted it in his sworn testimony that he had nothing to do with merger negotiations or seniority?

And did he not take a safety management job, leave US, write a book and made many paid television appearances?

Sometimes the truth hurts,doesnt it?

 

[end_of_alpa]

Go call Jetstream, or hop in the truck and do it yourself.

By the way, my last years at US I was a stock clerk, you know the people that ensure your parts for your plane got to where they were going. Were properly inspected, had the proper documentation and many other things.



And I will put my labor representation skills up against any of you pilots, especially your pos union.

How is it working on wages that were back from 2004?

If I want a stock clerk I go to O'reillys. It doesn't take any ratings to be a stock clerk, bag smasher, lab truck operator.

Tell me, what exactly do you do now?

 

[EastUS1]

700UW: By the way, my last years at US I was a stock clerk,

One's job does not equate to their knowledge, education or skills.

Keep telling yourself that, if it comforts you to do so. I began flying sailplanes nearly a half century ago, and have been tied to the sky ever since. I'm most impressed with the overall crew performance on 1549 and would hate to ever be put in Captain Sullenberger's spot that day....but don't ever allow any tiny bit of respect for your betters to curb your mindless arrogance. How truly sad it must be to have to live your life.

 

[end_of_alpa]

I left because of the pension termination and I have a son at home who I have joint custody of and I wasnt going to transfer to keep my job.

Section 1113 C laws screwed us.

I saved many jobs in my career and won some serious arbitration cases, and even received a nastygram from Steven Wolf himself, for my union work that showed his career and how he was a robber baron in the airline industry,

Wow. Did the union give you a medal?

 

[snapthis]

No, you can't unbundle the courtroom from Sully and Skiles. Sully saw your scheme to take Skiles down and backed his six. Something he did for his fellow pilots his entire career.
700 UW has a hard on for pilots because some pilot beat him out of a NY Post when he tried to pick one up before he spent the rest of the afternoon in the bathroom stall.
The new people from Africa and the islands could clean five jets before 700 got to the 5th row on one.

I can assure you 700 and I have butted heads in the past. He's called it correctly on what happened in the courtroom. Everyone made it off the airplane that day, alive. It's the fact he let his status be used by USAPA that day. He made a point in saying he had no dog in the fight. That tells me he was going to take opportunities outside of this airline.

Someone brought up an interesting point. Did Sully do anymore testifying or interviews for USAPA after the trial? No. He most likely tried to distance himself because the courtroom did nothing but tarnish his status amongst his peers.

 

[end_of_alpa]

I can assure you 700 and I have butted heads in the past. He's called it correctly on what happened in the courtroom. Everyone made it off the airplane that day, alive. It's the fact he let his status be used by USAPA that day. He made a point in saying he had no dog in the fight. That tells me he was going to take opportunities outside of this airline.

Someone brought up an interesting point. Did Sully do anymore testifying or interviews for USAPA after the trial? No. He most likely tried to distance himself because the courtroom did nothing but tarnish his status amongst his peers.

Sully didn't do anything else because it wasn't necessary. Besides, he's retired. You can say what you wish, Jeff and Sully still saved many lives.

What have you done lately?

 

[EastUS1]

He most likely tried to distance himself because the courtroom did nothing but tarnish his status amongst his peers.

That's more than just a bit uppity snap. If ever any of us successfully lands a transport category aircraft in the frikkin' water, sans ANY casualties, immediately ensures that all are safely evacuated, and even have the presence of mind to secure the log book, well...then we can discuss being "his peers". 😉 I give full credit to the Lord there, as the outcome was truly a miracle, and would hate to ever be put in that situation myself.

 

[700UW]

Actually you do need training and skill levels for stores, there is hazmat training and my name went on the paperwork and if something happened I was responsible.

We had two stock clerks get in trouble with the FAA and disciplined for improper paperwork which led to O2 generators being shipped on a flight.

And we also had the responsibility to ensure the 8130 paperwork was done correctly when the parts came back from a vendor before it went to the receiving inspector.

And the ramp has specialized training also, planes have crashed due to improper loading, and then also there was the Valujet crash because of human errors made by stores and ramp at a vendor.

 

[EastUS1]

Actually you do need training and skill levels for stores, there is hazmat training and my name went on the paperwork and if something happened I was responsible.

And we also had the responsibility to ensure the 8130 paperwork was done correctly.....

Most impressive indeed. Truly awesome, in fact. It's no wonder that you feel yourself a fully qualified critic here. 😉

700UW: "We had two stock clerks get in trouble with the FAA and disciplined for improper paperwork..." Wow!

Dismissed.

 

[EastUS1]

And did he not take a safety management job, leave US, write a book and made many paid television appearances?

Yeah. So, in your estimation; he proved himself a real slmeball by doing so...?