Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[luvthe9]

"Sully is HATED by our pilot group and seen as a false hero...." Wow Kevin, you are really a sick dude. You are completely out of sync with 100% of the rest of the planet. What a delusional and sick group of guys. Go figure.

Holy cow, Kevin you are a nut case, now you have your own group distancing themselves from you. You better go seek help son. What an embarrassment to the west pilots you are.

 

[Claxon]

Yes. So sad when those with little actual power feel slighted and then use an opportunity to exact revenge out of spite isn't it?

Leonidas, LLC was created in August of 2007 to safeguard the legal rights of the
former America West pilots in the face of the multiple threats before them at that
time. It was founded by two America West First Officers; Eric Ferguson and Jeff
Koontz. Those two pilots were introduced by a Merger Committee member by
the name of Kevin Horner who is now at American. In early 2008, the group
expanded to include Captain Roger Velez, from the Merger Fund Management
Committee.

 

[Claxon]

Chesley B. Sullenberger: An American Hero

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You have all heard of thee “Miracle on the Hudson” coined by David Paterson, the mayor of New York, and the story should be inspirational to the entire world. This is a personal finance blog, so I won’t go into every angle and story that you could extract from this amazing story, but I just had to pay tribute to a true American hero that did not fold under pressure and put his 40 years of flying experience and air safety experience into practice.

Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger, a U.S. Air Force graduate and former fighter pilot, made the first ditch landing of a wide-bodied aircraft with a 100% survival of all passengers. Sullenberger is a patriot and an American hero. Obama’s first order of business should be an executive order to give Sullenberger the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Hats off to the rescuers of New York City and the ferry and tug boat captains to respond as quickly as they did.



But wait, isn't Sullenberger HATED by the former America West Pilots? Who DON't they hate? Who DON'T they sue????? Who is totally out of touch with the rest of American Society??? The pilots under the flag of the corrupt LEONIDAS!

 

[700UW]

Chesley B. Sullenberger: An American Hero

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You have all heard of thee “Miracle on the Hudson” coined by David Paterson, the mayor of New York, and the story should be inspirational to the entire world. This is a personal finance blog, so I won’t go into every angle and story that you could extract from this amazing story, but I just had to pay tribute to a true American hero that did not fold under pressure and put his 40 years of flying experience and air safety experience into practice.

Chesley “Sully” Sullenberger, a U.S. Air Force graduate and former fighter pilot, made the first ditch landing of a wide-bodied aircraft with a 100% survival of all passengers. Sullenberger is a patriot and an American hero. Obama’s first order of business should be an executive order to give Sullenberger the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Hats off to the rescuers of New York City and the ferry and tug boat captains to respond as quickly as they did.



But wait, isn't Sullenberger HATED by the former America West Pilots? Who DON't they hate? Who DON'T they sue????? Who is totally out of touch with the rest of American Society??? The pilots under the flag of the corrupt LEONIDAS!

David Paterson was not and has never been Mayor of NYC, he was Governor when Spitzer resigned, Bloomberg was and still is Mayor of NY when 1549 happened.

And an A320 is not a wide-bodied airplane.

Do you even read where you cut and paste from?

 

[Claxon]

I find myself in agreement with EOA and NYC.

That's what happens when you kick the doors down in our fight club we have over here. Enter the ring and you run the risk of getting knocked out.

I have yet to have a bad experience myself with East Crew, agents, etc. I hope ops remain in Pitt, schedulers top-notch with the exception of a Phoenix transfer who has a Flyby Attitude Disorder..We all have a few bad apples who could do all of us a favor and take an early retirement.

Not so fast Mr. Kumbaya.

There is only one incident of a west pilot being denied a jump seat by an East pilot. There are hundreds of incidents of the west pilots denying East.

The west pilots had their assistant chief pilot steal East pilots personal information from company computers.

The west pilots have been standing up in front of company officials in crew meetings for years accusing East pilots of slowing down the operation.

Your west pilot self serving disrespect for the pilots involved in the Miracle On The Hudson, because they were East pilots, is unforgivable.

The west pilots have been trying everything in their limp arsenal to undermine everything USAPA has tried to do to improve pilot lifestyles, in the name of righteousness, with the goal of the nicolau being a wormhole to improve their seniority. A rose held by a pig with lipstick on, is still a pig holding a rose that smells the same.

http://www.youtube.c...ternetTrashTalk

 

[700UW]

The West didnt disrespect Sully, he let himself be used as a pawn and publicity stunt in the DFR trial, what he did had nothing to do with the case yet he testified.

 

[Claxon]

The West didnt disrespect Sully, he let himself be used as a pawn and publicity stunt in the DFR trial, what he did had nothing to do with the case yet he testified.

Do you have a quote from Captain Sullenberger's testimony? It may help us understand how you arrived at your very humble opinion.

Thank you.

 

[700UW]

Dont need a quote, Sully wasnt a union rep, didnt negotiate nor represent a west pilot nor an east pilot under the CBA.

But he did cash in on his fame, now didnt he?

He let usapa use him.

 

[Claxon]

Dont need a quote, Sully wasnt a union rep, didnt negotiate nor represent a west pilot nor an east pilot under the CBA.

But he did cash in on his fame, now didnt he?

He let usapa use him.

You "dont" need a quote because someone "didnt"

Your witness.

 

[Claxon]

Dont need a quote, Sully wasnt a union rep, didnt negotiate nor represent a west pilot nor an east pilot under the CBA.

But he did cash in on his fame, now didnt he?

He let usapa use him.

"CHESLEY SULLENBERGER, III,
called as a witness herein, having been duly sworn, was
examined and testified"

Are you trying to say that Captain Sullenberger lied under oath?

Captain Sullenberger"s testimony starts on page 149 in the following link.

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/attachments/category/34/Addington%20Transcripts%20Day%204.pdf

 

[Claxon]

Not so fast Mr. Kumbaya.

There is only one incident of a west pilot being denied a jump seat by an East pilot. There are hundreds of incidents of the west pilots denying East.

The west pilots had their assistant chief pilot steal East pilots personal information from company computers.

The west pilots have been standing up in front of company officials in crew meetings for years accusing East pilots of slowing down the operation.

Your west pilot self serving disrespect for the pilots involved in the Miracle On The Hudson, because they were East pilots, is unforgivable.

The west pilots have been trying everything in their limp arsenal to undermine everything USAPA has tried to do to improve pilot lifestyles, in the name of righteousness, with the goal of the nicolau being a wormhole to improve their seniority. A rose held by a pig with lipstick on, is still a pig holding a rose that smells the same.

http://www.youtube.c...ternetTrashTalk

Love the west pilot videos in the above link. The west pilots are so;

" aciculate, acuate, acuminate, acuminous, acute, apical, barbed, briery, cuspate, cuspidate, edged, fine, ground fine, honed, horned, jagged, keen, keen-edged, knife-edged, needle-pointed, needlelike, peaked, pointed, pointy, prickly, pronged, razor-sharp, salient, serrated, sharp-edged, sharpened, spiked, spiky, spiny, splintery, stinging, tapered, tapering, thorny, tined, tipped, unblunted, whetted"

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Leonidas, LLC was created in August of 2007 to safeguard the legal rights of the
former America West pilots in the face of the multiple threats before them at that
time. It was founded by two America West First Officers; Eric Ferguson and Jeff
Koontz. Those two pilots were introduced by a Merger Committee member by
the name of Kevin Horner who is now at American. In early 2008, the group
expanded to include Captain Roger Velez, from the Merger Fund Management
Committee.

The same HORNER, AWA merger committee, takes confidential data to the SLI integration he copies from contract talks gives it to NIC to boulster AWA position, causes closed hearings and now went "BACK TO AMERICAN" and sues APA and ALPA, man this is made for the movies!

 

[snapthis]

The West didnt disrespect Sully, he let himself be used as a pawn and publicity stunt in the DFR trial, what he did had nothing to do with the case yet he testified.

Bravo 700. I'm one who can separate the Hudson from the courtroom.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

KEVIN "LEAPFROG" HORNFROG is more appropriate! MM! Guy has more seniority numbers than horns!

 

[700UW]

"CHESLEY SULLENBERGER, III,
called as a witness herein, having been duly sworn, was
examined and testified"

Are you trying to say that Captain Sullenberger lied under oath?

Captain Sullenberger"s testimony starts on page 149 in the following link.

http://leonidas.cact...ripts Day 4.pdf

Looks like Harper pretty much put Sully in his place.