Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[Phoenix]

I was at the meeting, LS is spot on. You are either a liar or a propagandist.

Well, rest easy, at least no one EVER suspected that of you!

 

[nic4us]

Any way you figure it,,,,,,,,,,, I'm right where I want to be and not going anywhere.

Good for you, because right where you want to be will be behind any West pilots ahead of you on the Nic when it is merged with the APA's list.

So glad you are happy with that and sticking around for all the fun.

 

[Metroyet]

Your beloved ALPA is gone from this property forever. Get over it. USAPA can submit whatever they deem appropriate. The Ninth AND judge Silver said so.

With the blatant warning regarding the requirement of an LUP which we all know you don't have. Relax, the ball is in play again and you're under a joint CBA. You should welcome the news.

 

[Pi brat]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']I am sure you and others have a lot of ideas about how things should have happened, but there was a concerted illegal effort to destroy USAPA. It took two atom bombs to stop the nonsense. RICO and the NMB. Nothing else worked, and it still took a year to get their dues. How do you think the NY operation was paid for during the Hudson landing? It sure as heck was not from great intentions or good will.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']You were not at the meeting in PHX, and I find your junior detective work (how much Seham talks) to be meaningless here.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']Larry probably is a great guy, as I am sure 99.9% of the folks on this forum are. But his accounting of what went down at the meeting is revisionist history. [/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']If people insist on keeping this thread going , bring it on.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']Greeter[/font][/font]

Greeter,

I agree with you that there was a concerted effort to destroy USAPA, but didn't you expect that? Not right or wrong, realistic.

I know that you guys had to take steps to stop it. Just like the real atomic bomb, it's easy to say now whether it was required or not, and as you said I wasn't there. But, after the actions stopped, the suit went on, for two losses. I told every member of the BPR that the west pilots were using the C18 as martyrs and helping raise money for AOL. No one listened.

You find my "junior detective" work to be meaningless, yet you didn't answer my questions. How many signed confessions did USAPA get? How much did it cost us?

The Hudson landing and everything else has been paid by people like me that signed up from day one and have paid everything single dime owed. We get an opinion for that and just because we aren't there every minute doesn't mean we are wrong.

It's water under the bridge, I'm willing to let it go without any answers. You?

 

[Phoenix]

Both the 9th and judge Silver were referencing negotiating with the company, LCC.

Now we are talking about negotiating with another union and another company.

DFRII is ripe because we have a ratified document in which the scab union failed it's DFR.

Bring it up with the 9th, and I am sure you will, they already warned uscaba about the pain of a DFR.

Good luck!!!

 

[traderjake]

Let's make it simpler. List the things you do like, besides post without emoticons.

I like emoticons but after you and EastUS1 post there's never any left.

 

[nic4us]

I was at the meeting, LS is spot on. You are either a liar or a propagandist.

Like I said before...24 defendants all say they told Seeham and the scabs to go to he!!, and one founder of a scab union saying the opposite.

 

[prechilill]

I like emoticons but after you and EastUS1 post there's never any left.

Lieutenant Dale, emoticon Ace- Top Grin graduate. A master poster.

 

[Phoenix]

With the blatant warning regarding the requirement of an LUP which we all know you don't have. Relax, the ball is in play again and you're under a joint CBA. You should welcome the news.

There is no JCBA. Nothing at all has changed and won't unless and until there is a POR, at which time everything is replaced with the new agreement, that we all agreed to. Good luck with that being a DFR breach. Really, good luck. The longer you guys tie it up the longer it is DOH!

 

[prechilill]

Like I said before...24 defendants all say they told Seeham and the scabs to go to he!!, and one founder of a scab union saying the opposite.

Scottsdale T is about as truthful as Jodi Arias. The whole onion was founded on lies and ST was the perfect mother of it

 

[nic4us]

Good luck!!!

I would wish you luck in that NY bankruptcy complaint, but I am not patronizing a-hole.

So, instead I will say that when judge Lane kicks uscaba out of the room, there is a huge surprise coming uscaba's way.

Say goodbye to the scab treasury, and get ready for assessments. Does that not bother you because you are on disability and not subject to union assessment?

 

[Walmartgreeter]

I was at the meeting, LS is spot on. You are either a liar or a propagandist.

There were only two PHX members in good standing at the first PHX domicile meeting. You were not there. But you saying so might make it true, just like the system bid you just moved to Charlotte on.

Maybe you meant the USAPA campaign stop at the airport 5 years ago. Somebody played me the video of you doing your "not paying dues" chicken dance. Funny, yet strangely disturbing. Now THAT'S propaganda! Your rain dance worked, for a while.

Greeter

 

[Pi brat]

Say goodbye to the scab treasury, and get ready for assessments. Does that not bother you because you are on disability and not subject to union assessment?

You have been predicting damages for years and have been wrong every, single, time. What's different this time? Even if you are correct that the case is ripe, what's the damage?

 

[Metroyet]

There is no JCBA. Nothing at all has changed and won't unless and until there is a POR, at which time everything is replaced with the new agreement, that we all agreed to. Good luck with that being a DFR breach. Really, good luck. The longer you guys tie it up the longer it is DOH!

Nothing in the MOU trumps federal law and the status quo provisions. Nothing. I know you think this agreement waves a magic wand relieving the West of their civil rights but you would be incorrect. You indeed are under a contingent CBA that is joint to the East and West. The MOU was designed to me "neutral" on the seniority issue while at the same time removing all ripeness barriers so this could move smoothly through the court system unimpeded by technicalities.

Why is the East always so hesitant to get this hashed out in the only venue that has the authority to do so? Court. In fact, the East wants to avoid a courtroom like the plague. I wonder why? Once again, your getting dragged back in kicking and screaming. This time however it's going to stick. You really should have kept ALPA if the nic. Was so bad...as per normal, the East made the worst possible decision and went USAPA.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

I would wish you luck in that NY bankruptcy complaint, but I am not patronizing a-hole.

So, instead I will say that when judge Lane kicks uscaba out of the room, there is a huge surprise coming uscaba's way.

Say goodbye to the scab treasury, and get ready for assessments. Does that not bother you because you are on disability and not subject to union assessment?

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']Anytime I have ever been told to expect a "big surprise," good or bad, it has never panned out.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']If you really had something in the bag, telling us would be the last thing competent legal help would advise. And there is the rub.[/font][/font]

[font=Arial'][font=Arial']Greeter[/font][/font]