Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[nevergiveup]

Basterd. That's a dude who has a tow truck in Lizard Lick, North Carolina.

Bastard would be a compliment, if you are referring to me.

True heroes don't sell out. True heroes are humble, avoid the limelight .

Postscript, is it PS or is it P.S in NC?

Use your limited imagination, PS

Do you have more than one hero on planet Usapapia than Sully you Clearian clone?

A hero in the truest since expects nothing in return for what he or she does, such as salary, benefits, or recognition.

 

[snapthis]

A hero in the truest since expects nothing in return for what he or she does, such as salary, benefits, or recognition.

EastUS was a little too wordy as usual so I will respond to you. I think I can speak for my West brothers and sisters who did not care for his actions in the Phoenix courtroom. It was his choice to take the stand and imply that the pilots of America West were rookies and the use of the Nic list would be unwise. He was dismantled by Marty Harper that day in Federal Court and rightfully so.

 

[nic4us]

She is a nasty little thing!

This post actually makes sense if I assume you refer to your male genitalia in the feminine.

 

[EastUS1]

I think I can speak for my West brothers and sisters who did not care for his actions in the Phoenix courtroom.

Now THERE'S a truly brilliant and mature basis from which to judge any person's character, life and deeds! You poor little babies!...You didn't like what he said against you and your precious little nic!? Well....sniffle/whine/whimper/cry/etc...Need another box of tissues or two?

Why don't you just pull up another Medal of Honor recipient as a presumed, "character witness" in fantasized "defense" of your infantile BS? Best run along and rejoin your mighty little "army" now, before the other "spartans" miss you.

 

[snapthis]

Now THERE'S a truly brilliant and mature basis from which to judge any person's character, life and deeds! You poor little babies!...You didn't like what he said against you and your precious little nic!? Well....sniffle/whine/cry/etc...Need another box of tissues or two?

Why don't you just pull up another Medal of Honor winner as a presumed, "character witness" in fantasized "defense" of your infantile BS? Best run along and rejoin your mighty little "army" now, before the other "spartans" miss you.

Nope. Not hurt at all, don't need those tissues. Thank you very much. You can use it to wipe the drool off your face at Sully's next speaking engagement. My wife chose to skip a women's conference in Lubbock last November after learning he was a speaker. She was in court that day in Phoenix and she's heard enough.

 

[EastUS1]

Nope. Not hurt at all, don't need those tissues. Thank you very much. You can use it to wipe the drool off your face at Sully's next speaking engagement. My wife chose to skip a women's conference in Lubbock last November after learning he was a speaker. She was in court that day and she's heard enough.

No need for any tissue for me. I met the man many years ago in the PSA era and found him a very respectable professional then. Little seemed to have changed with him by 1549, save for the same wrinkles and gray hair that reach us all over time. it's perhaps inconceivable to arrogance of your exhibited level, but surprisingly; I've far less concern with the opinions of yourself (and even your spouse) than my own evaluation of the man.

 

[snapthis]

No need for any tissue for me. I met the man many years ago in the PSA era and found him a very respectable professional then. Little seemed to have changed with him by 1549, save for the same wrinkles and gray hair that reach us all over time. it's perhaps inconceivable to arrogance of your exhibited level, but surprisingly; I've far less concern with the opinions of yourself (and even your spouse) than my own evaluation of the man.

He comes across as a very nice man on TV. We both had a far different impression of him in court. It's too bad, he made a poor choice that day in April. He had far better judgement just three months earlier.

 

[Bill Brasky]

He comes across as a very nice man on TV. We both had a far different impression of him in court. It's too bad, he made a poor choice that day in April. He had far better judgement just three months earlier.

I guess he should have lied and said that you deserved your lottery ticket, which we all know you don't.

Sucks that you're gonna have to pay your dues like everyone else. It's folks like you that harden the resolve of the East pilots to make sure you will.

You're just a big whiney baby.

 

[luvthe9]

Say it ain't so !!!!!!!! Can't say you weren't warned.
FLEET:





777: AA 772s reconfigured in previously-announced higher-density J/MCE/Y layout and find their way onto

legacy-US routes such as PHL/CLT-LHR and legacy-AA routes like JFK/DFW-CDG, DFW/MIA-MAD,
MIA-GIG/SCL, etc.


A330: US A330s reconfigured with MCE and deployed on legacy-AA routes such
as JFK-FCO, JFK-BCN, MIA-BCN, MIA-CNF, etc.


787/A350: 787s introduced per recent AA-Boeing agreement, A350 order possibly cancelled in favor of
additional A320 family jets to rapidly replace US 737s and 757s, and AA MD80s.


767: US 762 fleet parked near-immediately, and replaced with AA 763s or 757s; AA 763 retirement timeline
accelerates.


757: US 757 fleet parked near-immediately, and replaced byAA 757s (either domestic or international
configuration, as applicable) or new narrowbody jets being delivered.


A321: AA/US comingled fleets used throughout network, including increasingly to replace 757s in Hawaii and
Latin America markets, and on transcons; separate AA premium JFK-LAX/SFO A321 plans continue.


737/A320: US 737s parked near-immediately; AA handles 737/A320 mix much like Delta, with 737 being
configured with a larger premium cabin for use in premium domestic markets and transcons, while A320
configured with a smaller premium cabin and used for lower-yielding markets (e.g., non-MIA Florida, leisure
Caribbean and Mexico, PHX/LAS/RNO, etc.)


A319: AA/US co-mingled fleets used throughout domestic/North America network.


MD80: fleet retirement continues and accelerates.


EJet/CR7: EJets will be prioritized first and foremost to more competitive markets where a better product is
required (e.g., ORD and NYC, then WAS and PHL) while CR7s will be flowed into other hubs where AA is more dominant (DFW, MIA, CLT, LAX)


Dash 8: The USExpress fleet of Dash 8s are quite old, and will need replacement at some point, and many of Eagle’s shorter routes out of multiple hubs (including DFW, ORD and MIA) would also be a good fit for a prop; I could see AMR/regionals placing a substantial order for Q400s or ATR72s to fill this role.


INTERNATIONAL NETWORK:


Atlantic: Some shifting and optimization among hubs/gateways; 1 daily FRA and seasonal GLA flights shifted from PHL to JFK (as 757s), and JFK also picks up 1 daily flight to TLV; CLT-FCO shifted to MIA-MXP and seasonal CLT-DUB ended entirely; PHL/CLT-FRA each lose 1 daily and PHL-MUC/ZRH exited entirely (due to dependence on Star connections); seasonal PHL-ATH market exited entirely (due to poor economy) while PHL-BCN and CLT-MAD upgraded from seasonal to year round.



Pacific: Little direct impact from merger, beyond US bringing feed and connectivity from US hubs and strength markets to AA Asia-bound flights instead of onto United codeshare flights; may provide marginal boost to NRT/China flying; longer-term, AA/JL JV adds daily JL 787 on PHL-NRT.


Latin America: Little change beyond CLT losing GIG and likely GRU flying and some Caribbean
weekend flying with that capacity shifted to MIA, although CLT retains substantial capacity to major
markets (e.g., CUN, AUA, PUJ, SJU, STT, MBJ, etc.)

 

[cactusboy53]

Luvthe9 (Kamp McCleary's John the Baptist) is back! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Where's the pizza??

 

[cleardirect]

I guess he should have lied and said that you deserved your lottery ticket, which we all know you don't.

Sucks that you're gonna have to pay your dues like everyone else. It's folks like you that harden the resolve of the East pilots to make sure you will.

You're just a big whiney baby.

No what he should have done was kept his mouth shut and not gotten involved.

I was there the day both Sully and Skiles did their dog and pony show. The jury was not impressed and saw right through the BS.

BTW, what happened to Sully after that court date? He disappeared and had NOTHING to do with usapa after that. Sully put his integrity on the line for usapa and got burned.

Don't understand what your obsession with paying dues is. Usapa will be going away soon enough and finally get an independent union that can do it cheaper. You know like usapa promised they were going to do.

 

[cleardirect]

Say it ain't so !!!!!!!! Can't say you weren't warned.
FLEET:





777: AA 772s reconfigured in previously-announced higher-density J/MCE/Y layout and find their way onto

legacy-US routes such as PHL/CLT-LHR and legacy-AA routes like JFK/DFW-CDG, DFW/MIA-MAD,
MIA-GIG/SCL, etc.


A330: US A330s reconfigured with MCE and deployed on legacy-AA routes such
as JFK-FCO, JFK-BCN, MIA-BCN, MIA-CNF, etc.


787/A350: 787s introduced per recent AA-Boeing agreement, A350 order possibly cancelled in favor of
additional A320 family jets to rapidly replace US 737s and 757s, and AA MD80s.


767: US 762 fleet parked near-immediately, and replaced with AA 763s or 757s; AA 763 retirement timeline
accelerates.


757: US 757 fleet parked near-immediately, and replaced byAA 757s (either domestic or international
configuration, as applicable) or new narrowbody jets being delivered.


A321: AA/US comingled fleets used throughout network, including increasingly to replace 757s in Hawaii and
Latin America markets, and on transcons; separate AA premium JFK-LAX/SFO A321 plans continue.


737/A320: US 737s parked near-immediately; AA handles 737/A320 mix much like Delta, with 737 being
configured with a larger premium cabin for use in premium domestic markets and transcons, while A320
configured with a smaller premium cabin and used for lower-yielding markets (e.g., non-MIA Florida, leisure
Caribbean and Mexico, PHX/LAS/RNO, etc.)


A319: AA/US co-mingled fleets used throughout domestic/North America network.


MD80: fleet retirement continues and accelerates.


EJet/CR7: EJets will be prioritized first and foremost to more competitive markets where a better product is
required (e.g., ORD and NYC, then WAS and PHL) while CR7s will be flowed into other hubs where AA is more dominant (DFW, MIA, CLT, LAX)


Dash 8: The USExpress fleet of Dash 8s are quite old, and will need replacement at some point, and many of Eagle’s shorter routes out of multiple hubs (including DFW, ORD and MIA) would also be a good fit for a prop; I could see AMR/regionals placing a substantial order for Q400s or ATR72s to fill this role.


INTERNATIONAL NETWORK:


Atlantic: Some shifting and optimization among hubs/gateways; 1 daily FRA and seasonal GLA flights shifted from PHL to JFK (as 757s), and JFK also picks up 1 daily flight to TLV; CLT-FCO shifted to MIA-MXP and seasonal CLT-DUB ended entirely; PHL/CLT-FRA each lose 1 daily and PHL-MUC/ZRH exited entirely (due to dependence on Star connections); seasonal PHL-ATH market exited entirely (due to poor economy) while PHL-BCN and CLT-MAD upgraded from seasonal to year round.



Pacific: Little direct impact from merger, beyond US bringing feed and connectivity from US hubs and strength markets to AA Asia-bound flights instead of onto United codeshare flights; may provide marginal boost to NRT/China flying; longer-term, AA/JL JV adds daily JL 787 on PHL-NRT.


Latin America: Little change beyond CLT losing GIG and likely GRU flying and some Caribbean
weekend flying with that capacity shifted to MIA, although CLT retains substantial capacity to major
markets (e.g., CUN, AUA, PUJ, SJU, STT, MBJ, etc.)

Oh the horror!!!!

Welcome to a merger boys. Things change. Your little 26 airplanes don't mean much now do they? You are going to find out what it means to suck hind tit for awhile. Don't expect any sympathy from the west. We have seen for long enough.

What was it guys told us? That the east coast is where all the money is. Yep east coast just not CLT or PHL.

Parker always said that ORD and DFW were the hubs he wanted.

Still want those base fences to keep you out of the AA hubs where the airplanes are going to be moved?

Think it might be better to have an equipment fence and follow the equipment?

 

[A320 Driver]

[sup]

Say it ain't so !!!!!!!! Can't say you weren't warned.

Guess who's back? 3/4 of a page of complete and total BS. How long did it take to dream all that up?[/sup]

 

[Zone5]

Oh the horror!!!!

Welcome to a merger boys. Things change. Your little 26 airplanes don't mean much now do they? You are going to find out what it means to suck hind tit for awhile. Don't expect any sympathy from the west. We have seen for long enough.

What was it guys told us? That the east coast is where all the money is. Yep east coast just not CLT or PHL.

Parker always said that ORD and DFW were the hubs he wanted.

Still want those base fences to keep you out of the AA hubs where the airplanes are going to be moved?

Think it might be better to have an equipment fence and follow the equipment?

So where is all that PHX Intl flying you boys and girls have been clamoring for? Any day now I'm sure!


seajay

 

[snapthis]

I guess he should have lied and said that you deserved your lottery ticket, which we all know you don't.

Sucks that you're gonna have to pay your dues like everyone else. It's folks like you that harden the resolve of the East pilots to make sure you will.

You're just a big whiney baby.

Lottery ticket. That's really funny. Tell that to the West pilots who were furloughed as a result of the acquisition. I'm a MIGS. Look for my check, you will see one word in the memo.

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