Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[GorgeousGeorge]

Or they don't want evidence against them to be heard.

Tomato and tomato. Maybe USAPA decided to go on the offensive, you know play AOL rules. Maybe see if the corporation will weigh in on the MOU agreement they just made with the CBA's. The one the US Airways pilots ratified. You know the one that super cedes certain prior agreements like the TA for the US/AWA merger. If they do weigh in supporting the MOU they just negotiated, old AOL will have its hands full with DJ appeal on one hand and wrestling with USAPA and the New American in the BK court on the other. I guess the velvet gloves came off?

 

[snapthis]

They guys in the crew room are laughing about USAPA's desperation with this latest blunder concerning the MOU. Gary is feeling the heat.

I also got a look at the new AA/US seniority list and it's not DOH.

Here's a hint:
DO #11607
DC #11610

 

[Walmartgreeter]

They guys in the crew room are laughing about USAPA's desperation with this latest blunder concerning the MOU. Gary is feeling the heat.

I also got a look at the new AA/US seniority list and it's not DOH.

Wow, you can see into the crewroom in PHX, watch Gary get uncomfortable in CLT, and peer into the future at a document in DFW that does not exist yet!

How about my tire pressure, can you check that also please?

Thanks.

Greeter

 

[EastUS1]

They guys in the crew room are laughing about USAPA's desperation with this latest blunder concerning the MOU. Gary is feeling the heat.

I also got a look at the new AA/US seniority list and it's not DOH.

Here's a hint:

Aww...No Fair! Don't tease us with a mere hint! Link the "new" list up for all to see! Done deals needn't be kept secret....?

 

[dca319]

Somebody is getting desperate.

That they are. And VERY much so.

 

[Claxon]

Greeter,

This is not a dig at Charlotte but USAPA is about to get an eviction notice. It's not your attrition when we join APA. There is no East and West like before. This little party is going to end and the windfalls you've enjoyed thus far are going to end.

Your broke azzes came to our house, put your name on the mailbox, helped yourself to our refrigerator and put your feet up on our sofa table. You used our money to pay your country club dues, while enjoying a meals and bevs at McKoys on our dime.

Soon, you will be evicted and you will have to pay the tab yourself.

Party's over boys and girls.

This is just too funny. Leonidas is broke and you have nothing but empty threats. Marty Harper is preparing a new plea for cash. He knows you are getting your east gift profit check.

 

[snapthis]

Wow, you can see into the crewroom in PHX, watch Gary get uncomfortable in CLT, and peer into the future at a document in DFW that does not exist yet!

How about my tire pressure, can you check that also please?

Thanks.

Greeter

Don't stress. You don't have to worry about going out to the parking lot and finding your tires flat. We don't shove people into metal door frames either.

We'll see you in court. You're buying lunch.

 

[Claxon]

They guys in the crew room are laughing about USAPA's desperation with this latest blunder concerning the MOU. Gary is feeling the heat.

I also got a look at the new AA/US seniority list and it's not DOH.

Here's a hint:
DO #11607
DC #11610

List by Lyingitas. Another pipe dream

 

[EastUS1]

That they are. And VERY much so.

"they are"...? Umm..."they"? Did "we" forget that "we", part of "us", are supposedly an "east" pilot today?

 

[Claxon]

Don't stress. You don't have to worry about going out to the parking lot and finding your tires flat. We don't shove people into metal door frames either.

We'll see you in court. You're buying lunch.

You, are the lunch. Again.

 

[Beancounter]

Hot off the press:

Fellow Pilots,
Last month the pilots of US Airways voted overwhelmingly to ratify the Memorandum of Understanding for a merger with American Airlines. This historic decision will lead to better wages, benefits, and working conditions for us all. While a final JCBA will be negotiated with the New American Airlines that can bring even more improvements, the MOU itself provides $1.6 billion in economic improvements for you over the next six years.
The vote on the MOU was impressive. Some 95% of US Airways pilots turned out, with 76% voting in favor of it. Every domicile overwhelmingly supported the MOU, including Phoenix where 98% of Phoenix-based pilots voted in favor of it. Despite this overwhelming support for the MOU, a few represented by Leonidas LLC are threatening the American Airlines/US Airways merger that was endorsed so strongly by the Phoenix-based pilots.
Eleven days after the MOU was ratified by the pilots of US Airways and five days after the boards of American Airlines and US Airways unanimously approved and announced the merger, the attorney for Leonidas LLC threatened "to file a third round of litigation and seek an injunction of the merger process until we can get a court order directing that the only [seniority] list that can be used is the Nicolau." The next day, the same attorney wrote a second letter, stating that Leonidas LLC "anticipates litigation and hereby requests that the US Airline Pilots Association... place a litigation hold on certain materials that will be discoverable in such litigation." Similar letters were sent to APA and US Airways.
Unfortunately these are not idle threats. In the past five years, Leonidas LLC has spent a significant amount of time and money suing USAPA, only to have their cases dismissed.
While Leonidas LLC claims to represent all West pilots; I do not think that is the case. Why? Because 98% of Phoenix-based pilots voted in favor of the MOU and the process outlined for JCBA negotiations and seniority integration. Just 11 days after their near unanimous vote, the attorney for Leonidas LLC threatened to derail the deal. No other domicile showed greater support for the MOU. In fact, only 24 out of 1041 PHX pilots voting said no to the MOU.
We cannot stand idly by while a handful of individuals seek to derail an MOU that US Airways pilots overwhelmingly support. That's why your BPR today approved the filing of a lawsuit in the American Airlines bankruptcy court to prevent Leonidas LLC from interfering with the bankruptcy. This is not an action against the Phoenix-based pilots, nor is it a course of action that anyone desires. Rather, we have been forced to file this action to protect the rights of all pilots – West and East – who overwhelmingly voted in favor of the MOU and the process to move us all collectively forward.
Despite our filing in the bankruptcy court today, we will continue to represent all pilots – East and West alike. Pilots from all domiciles are on our BPR and important committees such as NAC and Grievance. They continue to find common ground and have learned how to work together in a process that benefits us all.
On my first day in office, I appointed a West pilot, Ken Stravers, to the Merger Committee, based on the recommendation of Phoenix-based pilots. Unfortunately, before the BPR could approve Ken's appointment, the same West pilots changed their mind and withdrew their recommendation. Despite this, I am still committed to appointing Phoenix-based pilots to important committees. We are stronger when we work together.
It's no secret that the Company has exploited our divisions for far too long. Over the past 10 months we were able to turn down the volume, unite the parts into the whole, and work as one union toward our mutual goal of industry standard wages, benefits and working conditions. That is my pledge to you. Despite the noise being generated by a few, USAPA will continue to represent all pilots and ensure that this union moves in a direction that benefits us all.

Regards,


Gary Hummel

What did the east pilots expect? USAPA has stated they will present a DOH list to APA. That is basically promising to break the law. Have they broken the law yet? Well they're just about close enough to make the case ripe. I'm no lawyer, but this all seems simple enough to me. DOH is a clear breach and exactly what USAPA was warned about by the courts. USAPA can present the Nic or a list that is equal to the Nic (no harm to the west).... but DOH? C'mon guys DOH with conditions and restrictions? I know you want your careers back, but it can't be at the expense of the west.

Bean

 

[Claxon]

Hot off the press:

Fellow Pilots,
Last month the pilots of US Airways voted overwhelmingly to ratify the Memorandum of Understanding for a merger with American Airlines. This historic decision will lead to better wages, benefits, and working conditions for us all. While a final JCBA will be negotiated with the New American Airlines that can bring even more improvements, the MOU itself provides $1.6 billion in economic improvements for you over the next six years.
The vote on the MOU was impressive. Some 95% of US Airways pilots turned out, with 76% voting in favor of it. Every domicile overwhelmingly supported the MOU, including Phoenix where 98% of Phoenix-based pilots voted in favor of it. Despite this overwhelming support for the MOU, a few represented by Leonidas LLC are threatening the American Airlines/US Airways merger that was endorsed so strongly by the Phoenix-based pilots.
Eleven days after the MOU was ratified by the pilots of US Airways and five days after the boards of American Airlines and US Airways unanimously approved and announced the merger, the attorney for Leonidas LLC threatened “to file a third round of litigation and seek an injunction of the merger process until we can get a court order directing that the only [seniority] list that can be used is the Nicolau.” The next day, the same attorney wrote a second letter, stating that Leonidas LLC “anticipates litigation and hereby requests that the US Airline Pilots Association... place a litigation hold on certain materials that will be discoverable in such litigation.” Similar letters were sent to APA and US Airways.
Unfortunately these are not idle threats. In the past five years, Leonidas LLC has spent a significant amount of time and money suing USAPA, only to have their cases dismissed.
While Leonidas LLC claims to represent all West pilots; I do not think that is the case. Why? Because 98% of Phoenix-based pilots voted in favor of the MOU and the process outlined for JCBA negotiations and seniority integration. Just 11 days after their near unanimous vote, the attorney for Leonidas LLC threatened to derail the deal. No other domicile showed greater support for the MOU. In fact, only 24 out of 1041 PHX pilots voting said no to the MOU.
We cannot stand idly by while a handful of individuals seek to derail an MOU that US Airways pilots overwhelmingly support. That’s why your BPR today approved the filing of a lawsuit in the American Airlines bankruptcy court to prevent Leonidas LLC from interfering with the bankruptcy. This is not an action against the Phoenix-based pilots, nor is it a course of action that anyone desires. Rather, we have been forced to file this action to protect the rights of all pilots – West and East – who overwhelmingly voted in favor of the MOU and the process to move us all collectively forward.
Despite our filing in the bankruptcy court today, we will continue to represent all pilots – East and West alike. Pilots from all domiciles are on our BPR and important committees such as NAC and Grievance. They continue to find common ground and have learned how to work together in a process that benefits us all.
On my first day in office, I appointed a West pilot, Ken Stravers, to the Merger Committee, based on the recommendation of Phoenix-based pilots. Unfortunately, before the BPR could approve Ken’s appointment, the same West pilots changed their mind and withdrew their recommendation. Despite this, I am still committed to appointing Phoenix-based pilots to important committees. We are stronger when we work together.
It’s no secret that the Company has exploited our divisions for far too long. Over the past 10 months we were able to turn down the volume, unite the parts into the whole, and work as one union toward our mutual goal of industry standard wages, benefits and working conditions. That is my pledge to you. Despite the noise being generated by a few, USAPA will continue to represent all pilots and ensure that this union moves in a direction that benefits us all.

Regards,


Gary Hummel

Yep, the Leonidas Swamp will be drained very nicely.

 

[snapthis]

Y'all have fun. Gotta go fly a trip. Have a great time at McKoys tonight and remember to look out for those "Agents of Leonidas" who have been known to blend in with the Harley drivers on bike nights! That would be Fridays, right?

 

[Hate2fly]

You west boys and girls need to read Doc. 175 from the DJ case. Silver realized she couldn't deliver for you guys. Wake tried his best and was spanked by the 9th.

Hate

 

[EastUS1]

Y'all have fun. Gotta go fly a trip.

Ya'll be safe and have a good one snap.