Feb / Mar 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[GuntherA320]

Congratulations then.

No worries.

 

[EastUS1]

Hard to have much respect for you when you pretend to be an East pilot and are so obviously a West pilot........ You on the other hand pretend to be something that you are not.

What's most clinically interesting (and wryly amusing) is the tenacity with which the poor creature vainly attempts to defend and thus somehow, however ineptly, sustain the obvious lie....A very troubled individual indeed.

 

[EastUS1]

How about Trader? No respect for him either?

Hardly. His and my differences of opinion on the nic couldn't be more pronounced. We've exchanged considerable numbers of disparaging posts and even insults on the issue, but he IS an east pilot, and not someone presenting himself or his viewpoints and beliefs as other than is the true case for him. Were he to don the mask of being a "west" pilot...THEN I'd lose all respect for him. I'd suggest that you ask yourself just who could have any respect for the sort of pathetic, lying BS you're ineptly offering up?

You started out as merely amusing. You've long-since graduated to the you need help kid level.

 

[Portly Dorman]

Have any of these 'American' pilots seen what the usapa DOH list does to the APA list? Are these folks aware that the top 50% of a combined list is 65% former AAA pilots?

I spoke with AA pilot who just upgraded after 20 years, he wanted a DOH list because it was easier to do. Amazingly he didn't know much about M/B and how bad the AA list would come out with a DOH SLI.

Lets create a list with C&R'S, fences, carve outs, blocks and limitations. The company will love that, maybe some 20 year fences....yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Have any of these 'American' pilots seen what the usapa DOH list does to the APA list? Are these folks aware that the top 50% of a combined list is 65% former AAA pilots?

I spoke with AA pilot who just upgraded after 20 years, he wanted a DOH list because it was easier to do. Amazingly he didn't know much about M/B and how bad the AA list would come out with a DOH SLI.

Lets create a list with C&R'S, fences, carve outs, blocks and limitations. The company will love that, maybe some 20 year fences....yeah, that's the ticket.

Not amazing at all. Obviously you don't know anything about M/B either!

 

[nycbusdriver]

Keep dreaming Jabba. We're coming after you guns blazing. You can't do anything about it.

YAWN.

 

[nycbusdriver]

That was my favorite part of that movie! I was the bottom pilot in the airline for 5 years so I got to fly with a lot of captains that nobody wanted to fly with. Funny thing about that is that I actually liked flying with some of those captains that others bid around.
regardless of their reputations I learned something of value from every one of them.

All the best,

Bob

I agree, Bob. I used to fly with all the "jerks," and got along well with all except one who was, IMH-layman's-O, a diagnosable sociopath.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I even flew as F/O for JS and we got along just fine!

And this is supposed to surprise us? Half the folks on here think you ARE JS.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Yea, we are really "begging". SYIC maroon.

YWAN....

(Chinese for YAWN.)

 

[nycbusdriver]

Their lawyer has already briefed their board to expect an integration ala NWA/DAL.

But only if it goes to arbitration.

They have more control if they can come to an agreed negotiated list with USAPA. If APA insists that USAPA present the Nicolau, then it's time to head for the bar and call in the arbitration panel.

THEN, the APA (and USAPA) can "expect an integration ala NWA/DAL."

 

[nycbusdriver]

Are these folks aware that the top 50% of a combined list is 65% former AAA pilots?

...most of whom will be long gone before fences expire. I imagine they will be aware of that fact, too.

 

[nevergiveup]

But only if it goes to arbitration.

They have more control if they can come to an agreed negotiated list with USAPA. If APA insists that USAPA present the Nicolau, then it's time to head for the bar and call in the arbitration panel.

THEN, the APA (and USAPA) can "expect an integration ala NWA/DAL."

If APA wants the nIc, then expect arbitration. If not.....90 days.....maybe. For some, arbitration may be good as it allows each side to collect on its own attrition until late 2015.

 

[nycbusdriver]

If APA wants the nIc, then expect arbitration. If not.....90 days.....maybe. For some, arbitration may be good as it allows each side to collect on its own attrition until late 2015.

I agree.

 

[dca319]

But only if it goes to arbitration.

They have more control if they can come to an agreed negotiated list with USAPA. If APA insists that USAPA present the Nicolau, then it's time to head for the bar and call in the arbitration panel.

THEN, the APA (and USAPA) can "expect an integration ala NWA/DAL."

And I think that's inevitable.

 

[767one]

No. He just had a crappy career at a failing airline. That's it.

RJ,
The career had some bad times but I'm not complaining. When I did get back from furlough in "78" I was assigned a check engineer job. By the end of the first year I was being paid 12 year 727 f/o pay half day/half night with a decent override. Seven years after I had 1 pilot junior to me I was a captain and remained so for the rest of my career. I have been luckier than most in this business.Stagnant in the beginning and stagnant at the end. It was what it was.

Bob