Why? Why not? The membership is angry at the failure of the TWU to deliver anything of value. Years of negotiation with no TA until July 2010. And now AA is six months into a bankruptcy proceeding where the "TWU-represented" (and I use the term "represented" rather loosely) the mechanics can now see that their contract is likely to abrogated and they will be stuck with a six year imposed term sheet. More than a quarter century of failure by the TWU with the lone bright spot being the ill-fated 2002 contract that most observers could see wouldn't last very long. Sometimes you have to get someone really angry before they will throw off the familiar and fire their worthless union. Not unlike the abused spouse who (for unknown reasons) will take it and take it before finally deciding to leave, divorce or set fire to their abuser. Finally, perhaps the abused TWU dues-payers may have had all they are going to take and they won't take it anymore. Why now? No time like the present.
AMFA Drive started in Tulsa ?
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787nightmare
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Thx FWAAA....;-)
Mr Red
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Gloomy,600 new a/c on order, record profits forecast the only AMTs that won't have a job are
the ones that don't want to work!
CactUS4Ever
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I do not know much about AMFA but I do know alot about the TWU and IAM.....In the 3 years I worked for AA I saw the TWU was worthless when it came to hearings the TWU always sided with the company and Im glad to see them go in favor of my exTWA brothers and my exAA brothers that I got to know over the few years.....I dont know why you guys are choosing AMFA over the IAM but thats your choice....At this point I know any union you choose will be better than TWU...FYI I had Teamsters at America West and they are not an airline union and they are far better than TWU but not as good as IAM...TWU Must Go and I know you guys will Vote them OUT...Have No Fear..Have Faith
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For Buck: You read my idea, rather than any of us being lead around by wild statements or half truths everyone needs to educate themselves with FACTS not word of mouth. Lets hear from both AMP and AMFA, ask the questions that each person believes is important to their future. I do believe that we need an organization where leaders are voted in and can be voted out for ineptness and poor representation. Negotiations need to be open to members. I believe that both organizations offer that. I would like to hear from both and not have them shouted down by ignorance or stupidity.
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It is my understanding that a manager in Tulsa , along with a former chairman of maintenance have been seen stealing AMFA cards and a AMFA flag from a work bench adjacent to an emails employee tool box.
Since the employees property was not on his toolbox,it was fair game.
Isn't management suppose to be neutral?
Since the employees property was not on his toolbox,it was fair game.
Isn't management suppose to be neutral?
Hey pal, your right. Some have provided an extreme amount of hard work. How much of that is yours? Don't get me wrong. I'm not rippin' on you it's just that the most effective way to minimize the "confused syndrome" is to do everything in your power to research and engage. Too many folks sitting back and waiting to be spoon fed. AMP/AMFA, it's all something to sign onto because they are a step in the right direction. The AMP drive gave many hope but TUL couldn't be convinced as to going this route. I believe a percentage of previous AMFA card signers were not receptive to the AMP, so we move on and finish what is needed; 'Mechanics representing Mechanics' and IMO no one better than AMFA.
OP
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Just giving credit to those who worked so hard. Just dont get it, good enough for the AMP guys but not good enough for AMFA guys ! WHY? Until I get an acceptable answer for that Im thinking AMFA as usual My way or the highway.. Didnt work for United or NW ! If you think it did just ask the unemployed AMTs
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I guess you can also ask the twu represented employee's at MCI, and soon to be closed AFW mechanics, what they think? Cards flyin in at AFW !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You should consider getting a really nice gold colored pity pot to sit on. I mean you can be part of change and have some hope, or you can sit around and woller in self pity and agony, while remaining focused on the negatives and do nothing to change the current direction of the company, your representation, your profession, and the Tulsa Maintenance Base.
Which Reminds me, you never answered the four previous asked questions I psoed to you.
Are you happy with the direction of AA?
Are you happy with your Union Representation?
Are you happy with the direction of the profession?
Are you happy with the direction of the Tulsa Base?
And, which of these do you have a voice in and the ability to change?
You can keep pretending that someone owes you an anwer, while it is clear you already have your mind made up. This is typical of a well trained TWU member and/or Officer. Next step will be some anti-depressant and axiety meds for you to take daily.
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One has to appreciate the extra effort to defend the indefensable - there's most certainly a great deal of loyalty to the social club masquerading as union representation - even if they are a collection of liars - but I digress ...
Who, in the Turbine Building, has cards that need signed?
