Strictly managementOh really? I must have missed that announcement.
And did this announcement say that the 5000 were from maint.? All ground workers?? of which group(s)???
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Strictly managementOh really? I must have missed that announcement.
And did this announcement say that the 5000 were from maint.? All ground workers?? of which group(s)???
I'm confused about all of this. Will the furloughees be released immediately, but with a paycheck until 9/30/20? or will they simply be told that they will not have a job after 9/30/20, then sent back to their work station?
I thought it said july 31st would be tge last day paid till the end of septI'm confused about all of this. Will the furloughees be released immediately, but with a paycheck until 9/30/20? or will they simply be told that they will not have a job after 9/30/20, then sent back to their work station?
Ok these are only management and support staff.I'm confused about all of this. Will the furloughees be released immediately, but with a paycheck until 9/30/20? or will they simply be told that they will not have a job after 9/30/20, then sent back to their work station?
So where are you getting 4800 needs to go? Is that number a figure at the 30% mark?? Just curious if ya heard of a certain amount or something like that???
AMFAinMIAMI.......You can't push employees out the door unless they are truly ready to go. Yes....There are some out there waiting for AA to "sweeten" the pot; Is that what you're doing with your 41 years? I'm not looking to cause any problems but I'm 60 with 35 years Company and if AA doesn't pay for my insurance until Medicaid kicks in, I'm not going anywhere! That's the hard reality!SWAMT
Throughout the yrs of negotiation here at AA the TWU reps talked about getting M&R cut down by approx 3000, to get to United/Delta numbers. (total)
AA has Historically figured out ways to shed employees. There are LOOP holes in out current contract which will allow them to do just that no matter what it says about station/system seniority and farmout of work. The TWU will then come back with THEY can do that Brother.
There is a rumor or talk on the floor that they are thinking about another package to help get down to the numbers they want. This makes sense since cutting jr guys will not help them. The older guys can't no matter what they think do the work nor do they want to either. No one with time want to go back to Midnight shift.
That would be the result if AA has a layoff. IMHO a package makes the most sense for ALL the airlines. Cuts out the numbers, drops payroll and vacation numbers by removing the Sr. guys and AA can hire as needed, so payroll projections can be made by those who do that.
It was 5000 mgmt and admin only. Although in my station most admin are working from home.Oh really? I must have missed that announcement.
And did this announcement say that the 5000 were from maint.? All ground workers?? of which group(s)???
AMFAinMIAMI.......You can't push employees out the door unless they are truly ready to go. Yes....There are some out there waiting for AA to "sweeten" the pot; Is that what you're doing with your 41 years? I'm not looking to cause any problems but I'm 60 with 35 years Company and if AA doesn't pay for my insurance until Medicaid kicks in, I'm not going anywhere! That's the hard reality!
The 5&5 was during the Koziatec? years at AA and we'll probably never see that again! I've always voted with the betterment of our group in mind with the exception of this last contract. There are mechanics at ORD approaching 70 that aren't going anywhere, I'm guessing it's that way throughout the system and no amount of pot sweeteners will change their minds......The new hire young mechanics will have the option to wait for recall, or look elsewhere for jobs.....they are resilient! By the way, I am an AMFA supporter!Paul Too I NEVER said anything about pushing anyone out the door, I did say it would be better if AA sweetened the pot allowing some guys who are close to think about it. If your 60 and NOT yet set/ready to go then stay but there are guys who are 62-65+ that could take a package and go. I did say that with all the talk about how AA and the TWU/IAM will figure a way to cut heads it is just part of the industry. It Happens and there is no need to worry, there is life after the airlines. If your time in the industry is ALL with AA then you sir have in some way unless you VOTED NO on every contract you have been involved in here screwed the men/women who have hired on since you. 6yrs to be vested, 5 & 5, just to name a couple. You have every right to vote as you want but most of the BLUE BLOOD AA mechanics vote for themselves instead of the group/class & craft. So to answer your Question "NO"
Paul TooThe 5&5 was during the Koziatec? years at AA and we'll probably never see that again! I've always voted with the betterment of our group in mind with the exception of this last contract. There are mechanics at ORD approaching 70 that aren't going anywhere, I'm guessing it's that way throughout the system and no amount of pot sweeteners will change their minds......The new hire young mechanics will have the option to wait for recall, or look elsewhere for jobs.....they are resilient! By the way, I am an AMFA supporter!
Blue Bloods? You mean Jimmie" Rainwood (Tom Selleck) is still working for AA? I thought he moved on to a career change in Law Enforcement? Wow I need to keep up with the times. LOL...Paul Too I NEVER said anything about pushing anyone out the door, I did say it would be better if AA sweetened the pot allowing some guys who are close to think about it. If your 60 and NOT yet set/ready to go then stay but there are guys who are 62-65+ that could take a package and go. I did say that with all the talk about how AA and the TWU/IAM will figure a way to cut heads it is just part of the industry. It Happens and there is no need to worry, there is life after the airlines. If your time in the industry is ALL with AA then you sir have in some way unless you VOTED NO on every contract you have been involved in here screwed the men/women who have hired on since you. 6yrs to be vested, 5 & 5, just to name a couple. You have every right to vote as you want but most of the BLUE BLOOD AA mechanics vote for themselves instead of the group/class & craft. So to answer your Question "NO"
By the way, I am an AMFA supporter!
Blue Bloods? You mean Jimmie" Rainwood (Tom Selleck) is still working for AA? I thought he moved on to a career change in Law Enforcement? Wow I need to keep up with the times. LOL...
The 5&5 was during the Koziatec? years at AA and we'll probably never see that again! I've always voted with the betterment of our group in mind with the exception of this last contract. There are mechanics at ORD approaching 70 that aren't going anywhere, I'm guessing it's that way throughout the system and no amount of pot sweeteners will change their minds......The new hire young mechanics will have the option to wait for recall, or look elsewhere for jobs.....they are resilient! By the way, I am an AMFA supporter!