AA flight attendants

[700UW]

When you buy the board, then you can tell me and others what to do, if you dont like it, dont read it or use the ignore feature.

 

[IORFA]

When you buy the board, then you can tell me and others what to do, if you dont like it, dont read it or use the ignore feature.

This would be the newest member of my ignore list! While doing that I noticed there is a member titled 700UW-is-a-douche. What happened to that wonderful person? They should be here more often!

 

[700UW]

Guess you dont even know thats not even an active name.

 

[AirwAr]

Learn to read and comprehend:
 
 PASSES
1. A Flight Attendant shall be provided on-line and interline pass benefits in accordance with Company Policy unless otherwise provided for in this Agreement. These benefits shall include retiree travel and survivors of deceased employee travel in accordance with Company policy. During the term of this Agreement, the Company shall not modify its pass policy to cap the number of times Flight Attendants, retired Flight Attendants, their spouses, eligible dependents and survivors, may utilize their space available travel privileges, to reduce their relative boarding priority with respect to other employee groups, or to otherwise substantially reduce this underlying benefit. This Paragraph shall not prevent the Company from making changes to the administration of the pass policy.

 
I'm curious...this paragraph doesn't say anything about preserving DOH.  It only states the company can't cap the number of flights you take and that the company can't reduce the boarding priority relative to other employee groups.  If everyone is FCFS...then there is no reduced boarding priority as compared to the other employee groups. 

 

[700UW]

The seniority is in another part of their CBA, do you not understand there are two precedent setting grievances that preserves DOH for non-rev travel?
 
I find it difficult that most of you cant understand that concept.

 

[bob@las-AA]

The seniority is in another part of their CBA, do you not understand there are two precedent setting grievances that preserves DOH for non-rev travel?
 
I find it difficult that most of you cant understand that concept.

But....But....But....what about the two precedent setting grievances.
I dout that this griveance even exists.
I think your full of Sh#t buddy boy, and didn't some post that you didn't even work for AA/US?
Sooooo what business is it if yours anyway?
Drop it you F##king instigator, do you get some kind of high from this?
You need professional help!

 

[700UW]

Such hostility and if you dont believe it exists, it has been posted in several topics on this matter all ready.
 
One by AFA east and one by AFA west.
 
Dont like it, dont read it or use the ignore feature.
 
Is this your new job?
 

 

[Rogallo]

Give the computer back to your Daddy!

 

[PHX-F/A]

Do you realize that the grievances won at US are precedent setting?

Yah, precedent set to the PHX F/A's, yes our contract said benefits could not be diminished, but the east F/A's also had a contract provision that specifically covered pass travel.  West considered seniority travel to be a diminishment of our ability to travel because we were merging with a more senior work group.  The arbitrator ruled that the company would be violating a contract no matter which group he/she ruled with.  So it was decided to award to the larger group (east) and offer a settlement to the smaller group (west). 
 
I've heard that the grievance process has already acknowledge that the US side has already lost the case and it will go FCFS

 

[1AA]

Yah, precedent set to the PHX F/A's, yes our contract said benefits could not be diminished, but the east F/A's also had a contract provision that specifically covered pass travel.  West considered seniority travel to be a diminishment of our ability to travel because we were merging with a more senior work group.  The arbitrator ruled that the company would be violating a contract no matter which group he/she ruled with.  So it was decided to award to the larger group (east) and offer a settlement to the smaller group (west). 
 
I've heard that the grievance process has already acknowledge that the US side has already lost the case and it will go FCFS

Oh you better not let 700UW find out.

 

[silverbird007]

after looking at the US flight attendants seniority list, it looks like for every US FA with 1960s hire dates there are at least 10 AA FAs, so the US FAs might actually be better off to go with FCFS. We got a lot of senior commuters on the AA side. Just sayin...

 

[trentrb211]

not worth the effort. it will be FCFS

+1

 

[AirwAr]

The seniority is in another part of their CBA, do you not understand there are two precedent setting grievances that preserves DOH for non-rev travel?
 
I find it difficult that most of you cant understand that concept.

 
700UW,
 
I'm just looking at the piece of the contract that you posted that you used to support your claim that DOH is in your contract.  The way I read that section...it doesn't say anything about preserving DOH.  If there is another section that supports your claim...would you please post it.  Thanks.

 

[700UW]

Its not my CBA, the AFA won an arbitration on it. another poster said he believed the grievance was denied when refiled, that isnt correct, it goes to the next step, but actually a grievance doesnt need to be filed as the arbitration is precedent setting and if the company changes it, the AFA goes to court.
 
I will see if I can find it.

 

[AANOTOK]

Its not my CBA, the AFA won an arbitration on it. another poster said he believed the grievance was denied when refiled, that isnt correct, it goes to the next step, but actually a grievance doesnt need to be filed as the arbitration is precedent setting and if the company changes it, the AFA goes to court.
 
I will see if I can find it.

...and when we start boarding as one airline in mid-summer (w/o a JCBA I might add), it wil NOT be "precedent setting", it will be business as usual, FCFS.
 
Ok, now I'm ready for your condescending attitude and remarks towards AA employee's.