garfield a
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- Jul 8, 2003
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Flydcoop,
I will admit that I have a hard time with the minimum rest as well. I don’t think it is enough time to get enough rest to fly the next day. I guess my question is why did the union go for that when there were other work rules that could have been altered to perhaps give the same value back? A few that I can think of off the top of my head would be that Dom reserve have no 30/7 just like Intl. Get rid of availability and have either Line holder or Reserve. Make UP and Opt II go after reserves are plotted and then only if needed. Reduce the Guarantee. I am sure I could come up with several others if I had not just come off a 12 day stretch from hell at work. It sounds to me like you should be bitching at your union and not AA. I know the elections were messed up but I cannot say that I really care. The company did what they had to do to get the TA passed and to avoid BK. I for one am glad of that. I still have a job, I can still feed my family. I can still keep a roof over our heads. I think your union sold you out.
I see that FA Mikey and TWAnr have not responded to anything I posted. I find that humorous.
TWAnr, where does it say that sick time is owned by the FA? I have looked though the contract and I cannot find it. It is my understanding that you are a rep of the union and I find it sad that you seem to have no problem with the unethical behavior of FA’s in your union. Is that how you practice criminal law as well?
Sick time, I would think by definition, is to be use when you are sick. If it was intended for other use by the employee, they would have called it something else, perhaps something like “use it when ever you don’t want to go to work timeâ€. But, alas they did not. I find it very revealing that a union rep does not care about abuse in her own house and yet raises hell when the CEO does something out of the public eye, lies about it and then gets caught.
These are the union people that you place your faith with. These are the people you pay your dues to. That to me is a far bigger slap in the face than what Carty did.
Which leads me to another topic. I seem to recall either in this thread or others (too tired to look) that people don’t feel like they are getting a warm fuzzy feeling from AA. They do not feel respected or appreciated. I will be the first to admit that I am a cynic (I know, huge surprise), but geez people, this is a corporation for god sakes. I come to work, I have a little fun if I can, I go home and collect my salary every two weeks. I do not come to work to be appreciated, loved or fondled. If I wanted this, I’d work for a small mom and pop place. It’s work. You are a number on my screen and a voice on my phone. YOUR contract does not allow me to look at you as a person. I could walk up to my GM on the street, spit on his face, piss on his shoes and bust his knee cap and he would have no idea who I was till he saw me at work the next day. I used to get ticked off at stuff like that but then realized that it just does not mater. It is like this in any Corporation. Management tries to get as much work for as little money as they can. Employees try and get as much money for as little work as they can. I get my warm fuzzies from my family. I do the best job that I can at work because it is how I was raised. I have been screwed over by this company more ties than I care to remember. But I chose to stay at AA and that is my decision and therefore I give my best. If any of you have lost that feeling, then find it or leave. It’s very simple.
I will admit that I have a hard time with the minimum rest as well. I don’t think it is enough time to get enough rest to fly the next day. I guess my question is why did the union go for that when there were other work rules that could have been altered to perhaps give the same value back? A few that I can think of off the top of my head would be that Dom reserve have no 30/7 just like Intl. Get rid of availability and have either Line holder or Reserve. Make UP and Opt II go after reserves are plotted and then only if needed. Reduce the Guarantee. I am sure I could come up with several others if I had not just come off a 12 day stretch from hell at work. It sounds to me like you should be bitching at your union and not AA. I know the elections were messed up but I cannot say that I really care. The company did what they had to do to get the TA passed and to avoid BK. I for one am glad of that. I still have a job, I can still feed my family. I can still keep a roof over our heads. I think your union sold you out.
I see that FA Mikey and TWAnr have not responded to anything I posted. I find that humorous.
TWAnr, where does it say that sick time is owned by the FA? I have looked though the contract and I cannot find it. It is my understanding that you are a rep of the union and I find it sad that you seem to have no problem with the unethical behavior of FA’s in your union. Is that how you practice criminal law as well?
Sick time, I would think by definition, is to be use when you are sick. If it was intended for other use by the employee, they would have called it something else, perhaps something like “use it when ever you don’t want to go to work timeâ€. But, alas they did not. I find it very revealing that a union rep does not care about abuse in her own house and yet raises hell when the CEO does something out of the public eye, lies about it and then gets caught.
These are the union people that you place your faith with. These are the people you pay your dues to. That to me is a far bigger slap in the face than what Carty did.
Which leads me to another topic. I seem to recall either in this thread or others (too tired to look) that people don’t feel like they are getting a warm fuzzy feeling from AA. They do not feel respected or appreciated. I will be the first to admit that I am a cynic (I know, huge surprise), but geez people, this is a corporation for god sakes. I come to work, I have a little fun if I can, I go home and collect my salary every two weeks. I do not come to work to be appreciated, loved or fondled. If I wanted this, I’d work for a small mom and pop place. It’s work. You are a number on my screen and a voice on my phone. YOUR contract does not allow me to look at you as a person. I could walk up to my GM on the street, spit on his face, piss on his shoes and bust his knee cap and he would have no idea who I was till he saw me at work the next day. I used to get ticked off at stuff like that but then realized that it just does not mater. It is like this in any Corporation. Management tries to get as much work for as little money as they can. Employees try and get as much money for as little work as they can. I get my warm fuzzies from my family. I do the best job that I can at work because it is how I was raised. I have been screwed over by this company more ties than I care to remember. But I chose to stay at AA and that is my decision and therefore I give my best. If any of you have lost that feeling, then find it or leave. It’s very simple.
