AA and Labor Negotiations-2020

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

seriously after 9/11 and for quite a while i personally was of the opinion that i would take a little less so someone else could stay employed i.e. less hours or less pay. all the old guys said the same thing it never works out, they take it and layoff anyway. time has proven them correct, like the last 15 years. ESPECIALLY the fiasco of the last 5 years in negotiations. anything we give them will be pissed away and taken for granted. there is no way i will "share the pain to share the gain" fu*k them.

Good. You are getting smarter.

Personally i would be ok with semi retirement at 20 hours a week. Be a little tight but ill survive

Then you dropped the ball.

 

[Kev3188]

How is that dropping the ball?

For some people, transitioning to PT (or semi-retirement) would be a great option.

 

[ALUS78]

How is that dropping the ball?

For some people, transitioning to PT (or semi-retirement) would be a great option.

For fleet and Customer service they could have done it at anytime even the other groups could have swapped off or given away trips

 

[dfw gen]

How is that dropping the ball?

For some people, transitioning to PT (or semi-retirement) would be a great option.

You cant fix stupid.

 

[swamt]

United just announced a 30% cut to management come Oct. Also mentions for Pilots to get ready for "displacement" which union leaders took as 30% reduction as well in Oct. So is 30% gonna be the actual numbers we all might see? I hope not. Hoping for a better back to flying and a softer hit than that...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-plans-30-cut-233633415.html

 

[Kev3188]

I know UAL has been working off of worst-case scenarios, but I'd say 30% is likely pretty close across the industry.

 

[eolesen]

One of my industry analyst friends just declared UA the King of Credibility when it comes to how they're approaching "recovery"...

AA is the Joker. Who in their right mind offers pilots 50 hours a month for three years? They had ~700 take up that offer.

 

[Kev3188]

Based on what I've seen, that's a fair title. In internal comms, DL has been pretty clear that things are going to get ugly, but not to the specific extent UAL has. AA still seems stuck in denial?

 

[robbedagain]

There was an article online that claims AA cld easily go insolvency due to its debts

 

[V.O. Reason]

There was an article online that claims AA cld easily go insolvency due to its debts

I have a feeling AA has something else planned at the end of the day.
Can you say bankruptcy

 

[Rogallo]

I have a feeling AA has something else planned at the end of the day.
Can you say bankruptcy

DP, the King of BK!

 

[eolesen]

There was an article online that claims AA cld easily go insolvency due to its debts

A few of us here warned the same thing.

 

[robbedagain]

I have a feeling AA has something else planned at the end of the day.
Can you say bankruptcy

That was in the article i had read early this am. Though they used insolvency as like overseas does

 

[CremaDiLimone]

That was in the article i had read early this am. Though they used insolvency as like overseas does

what did they say about GE? i believe GE has nearly $90 billion of debt??

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I have a feeling AA has something else planned at the end of the day.
Can you say bankruptcy

a lot of panic. the nervous nellies hoarding the toilet paper and hand sanitizer are the ones propagating this??