AA and Labor Negotiations-2020

[Buck]

I'm not sure what you mean you and I don't have to support anything but in general if your work FOR a union you would be expected to support all union ideology

The TWU demands a "closed shop" which is contractual.
I do not work for the union, I work for American Airlines.

 

[ALUS78]

I believe Al is referring to people that actually do work for a union, such as GC's, VPS's, etc.

That's exactly what I mean , guess I wasn't clear enough,guess I speak a different language...

 

[title 2]

The TWU demands a "closed shop" which is contractual.
I do not work for the union, I work for American Airlines.

this is covered in the railway labor act that we are covered by

 

[Buck]

this is covered in the railway labor act that we are covered by

Yes, at least you as Title 2 understand that Title 2 is covered in a Mechanics representation determination.

 

[swamt]

I believe Al is referring to people that actually do work for a union, such as GC's, VPS's, etc.

They should be working for the membership not just for the union as in this asso case at AA.

 

[Buck]

I am not sure if IAM has a closed shop or not?

 

[dfw gen]

I am not sure if IAM has a closed shop or not?




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Is that the chasity belt the put on the twu?

 

[Buck]

Is that the chasity belt the put on the twu?

Seems that way...

 

[ALUS78]

They should be working for the membership not just for the union as in this asso case at AA.

Their main concern is with the union and you know it. I would imagine the heads of AMFA are having some sleepless nights too. There is a change coming to the industry come October barring another bailout

 

[eolesen]

Is that the chasity belt the put on the twu?

Looks more like a muzzle. Equally appropriate.

 

[swamt]

Their main concern is with the union and you know it. I would imagine the heads of AMFA are having some sleepless nights too. There is a change coming to the industry come October barring another bailout

NOT with AMFA.
This is what a lot of guys do not understand. YES it's all about working for the union with the TWU, IAM, teamsters ect... All the industrial unions. But with AMFA as well as other C&C unions, they are much, much more geared to be all about the membership which is why it is so much better to be in a C&C union for the mechanics. Just like most all the Pilots are at all airlines, but a small few, and the F/A's at most airlines. Once the get represented by the C&C unions their eyes really open to the concept and they never look back from their. It's one of those things you just have to experience first hand and physically to see the huge difference. The best gauge you AA'ers have to go by is call up your buddy and fellow mechanic from AA who is now the National Director of AMFA and straight up ask him about the differences, it's like night and day. And once ya do it you all will say that that was a no brainer, and we should have done it a long time ago. Sign them there cards folks.

 

[Rogallo]

Is that the chasity belt the put on the twu?

Or the Hannibal Lecter mask the TWU wears!

 

[Buck]

Or the Hannibal Lecter mask the TWU wears!

Hannibal Lecter did not eat every part of the human...

 

[ALUS78]

Looks more like a muzzle. Equally appropriate.

Looking at AAportal no where what it was or should be but the system load factor is creeping up

 

[dfw gen]

Looking at AAportal no where what it was or should be but the system load factor is creeping up

True but to put in perspective they operated i think 172 flights out of dfw