2014 Pilot Discussion

[CactusPilot1]

How do you log on to the AA forum. I need a little light reading !
If it is CR on the forum page I keep getting a page cannot be displayed msg??
 
NICDOA
NPJB

AWE
Sucks for you. You're on your own.

 

[Barrister]

I think I picked up your airplane the other day. Dude deplaned and was sweating profusely, looked like he had been shot at and missed and shi* at and hit.....was that you???
Very stressed out guy. Looked like the left seater and the FAs were even avoiding the dude.
 
That was you wasn't it??
 
NICDOA
NPJB

 

[snapthis]

How do you log on to the AA forum. I need a little light reading !
If it is CR on the forum page I keep getting a page cannot be displayed msg??
 
NICDOA
NPJB

 
Have you received the email that allows you the access to the message boards?
 
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[Pi brat]

AWE
Sucks for you. You're on your own.

I'm in, I guess I will have to clear up some misconceptions soon.

I noticed not many comments on the quote from aqua man that K posted. How come? Integrity and all. Care to comment here?

 

[Res Judicata]

USAPA being sue happy...? That is simply not true.  It is USAPA that NEGOTIATED the Protocol Agreement and DROPPED their own lawsuit, with prejudice against it.
 
Can AOL negotiate, or are they going to stick with their Nic or Nothing strategy until the bitter end?  
 
AOL better read the Protocol Agreement carefully.  APA and USAPA negotiated it.    There is absolutely no safe haven for you to stake a claim to NIc.

The arbitration panel will assemble those lists any way they damn well please. Hence the apoplectic Schitt fit you scabs have continually thrown over the prospect of having to face the panel with an unrestricted west class. You will be begging for the Nic when this is over. Just remember to STFU, pay your dues, and be a good Union pilot.

 

[Phoenix]

The arbitration panel will assemble those lists any way they damn well please. Hence the apoplectic Schitt fit you scabs have continually thrown over the prospect of having to face the panel with an unrestricted west class. You will be begging for the Nic when this is over. Just remember to STFU, pay your dues, and be a good Union pilot.

Indeed the arbitration panel will assemble the three lists in whatever way they believe is a fair and equitable manner.

Remember, the less rational one's argument is, the more emotional they become.

P.S. The west merger committee will be restricted to honesty about the status quo, pursuant to the protocol agreement. It will take some practice in front of the mirror, but I believe they will persuade themselves to be honest. The arbs will be watching.

 

[im back..!!]

Can you name the lawsuit currently against USAPA? (Hint: your appeal)
The West will receive a merger committee and their lawsuit will be dismissed with prejudice, at their own request, as a condition to enter the SLI arbitration, pursuant to the Protocol Agreement.
Three lists. Relative slotting. No Nic. No DOH. Fair and equitable according to the current status quo. Everyone lives happily ever after, except the bitter clingers to legends of old that never were. The end.

I think you hit the nail on the head..!

 

[nevergiveup]

The arbitration panel will assemble those lists any way they damn well please. Hence the apoplectic Schitt fit you scabs have continually thrown over the prospect of having to face the panel with an unrestricted west class. You will be begging for the Nic when this is over. Just remember to STFU, pay your dues, and be a good Union pilot.

They may go with relative position, making many west pilots junior to those hired in the last nine years and ignoring their date of hire. 

 

[AWE Dog]

They may go with relative position, making many west pilots junior to those hired in the last nine years and ignoring their date of hire.

Yup, Save Dave could be junior to a 2013 hire, he would lose 8 years LOS. Stil not as bad as the NiC on the east. As soon as you get away from DOH, any thing is possible, as we have seen.........

 

[nevergiveup]

Yup, Save Dave could be junior to a 2013 hire, he would lose 8 years LOS. Stil not as bad as the NiC on the east. As soon as you get away from DOH, any thing is possible, as we have seen.........

The west might be better off with DOH, even more so for their senior pilots. 

 

[A320 Driver]

The arbitration panel will assemble those lists any way they damn well please. Hence the apoplectic Schitt fit you scabs have continually thrown over the prospect of having to face the panel with an unrestricted west class. You will be begging for the Nic when this is over. Just remember to STFU, pay your dues, and be a good Union pilot.

You're dillusional. Slotting by equipment will have the senior West pilot slotted in with the other 757 Captains. He will get some longevity credit. You are right about the panel putting the lists together as they see fit and every indication is they will do it along the same lines as United/Continental. It won't be anywhere near the NIC or DOH either.

 

[A320 Driver]

Yup, Save Dave could be junior to a 2013 hire, he would lose 8 years LOS. Stil not as bad as the NiC on the east. As soon as you get away from DOH, any thing is possible, as we have seen.........

I just don't see that happening...maybe with a straight ratio, but not with a slotting formula with a longevity credit.

 

[Claxon]

The American Pilots will not allow arbitrators decide their future seniority, they never have and never will.   There will be a mutual agreement with fences and restrictions.  The west may get to sit in on these meetings with an Airbus model and a cactus plant on their table.

 

[Claxon]

The west might be better off with DOH, even more so for their senior pilots. 

That ship sailed away in December of 2014.  The west missed the boat while shopping for ties.

 

[A320 Driver]

You may be right about that for the most part, but there will still be items to arbitrate because an agreement lacks plausible deniability. The only way to be truly bullet proof is to let the panel decide a major part of it. That's my opinion anyway.