2014 Pilot Discussion

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MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
EAST you gotta give CATPISS1 credit he consulted an attorney that knew something about "LABOR LAW", ! Probably one of the 18 morons that thought sending feces , rocks and tieing up a safety hotline was smart! Or maybe he sought out DOYAL for some expert consultation!
 
Don't even get me started there. Was it not the latter who was rejected by the FBI/Secret Service/et al, then whimpered about wanting to "serve my country", yet felt no apparent need to actually do so in any other capacity?...Words just fail me there...
 
EAST, there are no words, these morons remind me of infinity, their stupidity is boundless and endless, OBTW I wear my yellow safety first lanyard thru PHX everytime I go, but I do complement those nice, ties!
 
Still keep looking for those "767" s they claim on their updated NIC, but heck correct me but doesn't INT'L have override and pay a greater rate, arbitraitors are very leary of overreaching as in the CA, UA merger !
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
Still keep looking for those "767" s they claim on their updated NIC, but heck correct me but doesn't INT'L have override and pay a greater rate, arbitraitors are very leary of overreaching as in the CA, UA merger !
 
Excercise care here! You're just doing that "logic thing" again. ;)
 
CactusPilot1 said:
I spent the better part of my day with an attorney who is very familiar with Labor Law. Let's explore your threat. I know the players here, one in particular who doesn't like bag stickers, online posts that he does not like, ties and drops them on a desk. Some of these are the same players who have been harrassing pilots and think they are protected from personal liability. There are many ways on getting info on who your accusers are.

Employees are allowed to speak out about their working conditions and speak out about those conditions. Are you familiar with an organization called the National Labor Relations Board? There are free speech protections.

"That agency is the National Labor Relations Board, or NLRB. This board was established in 1935 to enforce our nations basic labor law, the National Labor Relations Act, and is responsible for maintaining U.S. labor law and protecting workers rights to organize. But its also the protector of employees right to speak out online about working conditions without fear of firing or discipline.

Social media free speech has become an important and growing focus of the NLRB. Acting Labor Board General Counsel Lafe Solomon noted that there has been a strong uptick in the number of social media cases handled by the Board, including over 100 cases involving social media since 2010. These include:

Discussing Work Conditions: At Hispanics United of Buffalo, a nonprofit social services provider in New York, Mariana Cole-Rivera started a Facebook thread, asking, Lydia Cruz, a coworker feels that we don't help our clients enough at HUB. I about had it! My fellow coworkers how do you feel? Her colleagues immediately voiced their support, writing, Try doing my job. I have five programs and What the hell, we dont have a life as is. Cole-Rivera and four caseworkers who responded to her lost their jobs. But the NLRB found that their posts were the type of concerted activity for mutual aid that is expressly protected by the NLRA, since it involved a conversation among coworkers about their terms and conditions of employment, including their job performance and staffing levels. The judge ordered that the fired workers be fully reinstated to their jobs with back pay."

You also have to be aware of state laws concerning public policy.

"There are a number of states that have laws that prohibit employers from terminating employees when the terminations are in violation of public policy. In other words, these laws stop employers from firing employees for reasons that the public would find morally reprehensible or ethically wrong. These laws are often difficult for employers to follow, as morals and ethics are subjective and will vary from state to state. It is not uncommon for some state laws to differ form the laws of other states."

The accused have to right to sue:

Yes you can sue someone for calling your employer and trying to get your fired by knowlingly providing false information. Calling your employer and giving false information would be "slander," which is a form of defamanation (the other type of defamation is "libel," which are written statement.

Nuff said. I hope I made myself clear.

Trader, I hope you took notes.
Wow.
 
Pi brat said:
 
Indeed. "This is sparta!"..."I'm a muy-macho soldier in the army of leonidas!"..."You just wait 'till I tell my lawyers on you!" ;)  "I just wanted to serve my country and make my family proud"...yet then did NOTHING whatsoever to actually DO so. Sigh. Perhaps I've just traveled in the wrong circles, but must honestly observe that I've never before in my life seen the likes of these "heros," (well..beyond perhaps the 8th grade or so) for which I properly give thanks to Allmighty God.
 
EastUS1 said:
 
Indeed. "This is sparta!"..."I'm a muy-macho soldier in the army of leonidas!"..."You just wait 'till I tell my lawyers on you!" ;)  "I just wanted to serve my country and make my family proud"...yet did NOTHING whatsoever to actually DO so. Sigh. Perhaps I've just traveled in the wrong circles, but must honestly observe that I've never before in my life seen the likes of these "heros," (well..beyond perhaps the 8th grade or so) for which I properly give thanks to Allmighty God.
I read the post a few times and still didn't quite get it. Is he saying someone is trying to shut him up? I don't want him to shut up, I've been trying to get more details about what he is talking about1
 
Pi brat said:
I read the post a few times and still didn't quite get it. Is he saying someone is trying to shut him up? I don't want him to shut up, I've been trying to get more details about what he is talking about1
 
"more details"? Good luck with that ever happening Pi.
 
EastUS1 said:
Wager's always open. PM for agreeable terms and arrangements and find out. ;)
 
Chest-pounding schoolboys bore me.
He's right, you are so full of yourself that balloon could fly with you running your mouth.
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
Still keep looking for those "767" s they claim on their updated NIC, but heck correct me but doesn't INT'L have override and pay a greater rate, arbitraitors are very leary of overreaching as in the CA, UA merger !

When this is said and done there will be no west pilots in any wide body's I bet
 
Eastus
 
He's not a bad guy, just lonely and needs attention. He misses the..
 
Glory Days
 
Now I think I'm going down to the well tonight
and I'm going to drink till I get my fill
And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it
but I probably will
Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture
a little of the glory of, well time slips away
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inCC-PAggRA
 
snapthis said:
and leaves you with nothing mister but
boring stories of glory days
 
Akin to when "The nic will be crammed down your throats!"...and AWA was forever upgrading everyone to the left seat at 7 years? ;)
 
"a little of the glory of, well time slips away"? Yet the best "you'se" have to proudly offer of "glory", from previous postings, is a "varsity letter jacket"?
 
I don't have you figured for a bad person either snap, just one that's sitting a wee bit tipped over towards the thoroughly confused side of life.
 
EastCheats said:
He's right, you are so full of yourself that balloon could fly with you running your mouth.
 
There's an easy fix for that princess. = Accept the wager and forever deflate this poor old balloon. ;)
 
I do properly apologize for not having the "heroic" credentials that of course come from gym membership, and squabbling over hotel vans like your mighty "spartan" you support. Perhaps only a person that's proven themselves "worthy" in such fashion merits west respect. :)
 
luvthe9 said:
When this is said and done there will be no west pilots in any wide body's I bet
 
I'd guess the same. The irony being that those still angrilly fantasizing over some lost nic gift are clearly missing out on enjoying the huge bounty they've already been served by now being part of a hopefully powerhouse airline, that will afford them all FAR better careers than they could have even possibly dreamed of before, and all that made possible only through "merging" with the east operation.
 
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