2014 Pilot Discussion

[nevergiveup]

You have not kept up. How many times have we gone over this?
"Judge Silver called USAPA’s victory on McCakill-Bond “Pyrrhic” because USAPA, once again driven by its single-minded need to oppress West Pilots, has been the mastermind of its own march towards irrelevance. USAPA took the position that only the certified bargaining agent can determine who can participate in McCaskill-Bond in an effort to prevent West participation. Once again, USAPA did not think through its legal strategy because Judge Silver’s acceptance of that argument means that once USAPA ceases to be a collective bargaining agent it cannot participate in McCakill-Bond or seniority integration. Judge Silver was unequivocal on this point: “when USAPA is no longer the certified representative, it must immediately stop participating in the seniority integration.” Doc. 298 at pg. 21:11-12."
In the unlikely event that the mini arbitration goes against the West, a non-existent, decertified association WILL NOT be representing the West pilots. Period. Mind your own business, the APA is the only union on this property. Dual unionism will not be allowed.

APA will take good care of you......trust me, and have your ckbook ready for your next DFR suit.

 

[Pi brat]

You have not kept up. How many times have we gone over this?

"Judge Silver called USAPA’s victory on McCakill-Bond “Pyrrhic” because USAPA, once again driven by its single-minded need to oppress West Pilots, has been the mastermind of its own march towards irrelevance. USAPA took the position that only the certified bargaining agent can determine who can participate in McCaskill-Bond in an effort to prevent West participation. Once again, USAPA did not think through its legal strategy because Judge Silver’s acceptance of that argument means that once USAPA ceases to be a collective bargaining agent it cannot participate in McCakill-Bond or seniority integration. Judge Silver was unequivocal on this point: “when USAPA is no longer the certified representative, it must immediately stop participating in the seniority integration.” Doc. 298 at pg. 21:11-12."

In the unlikely event that the mini arbitration goes against the West, a non-existent, decertified association WILL NOT be representing the West pilots. Period. Mind your own business, the APA is the only union on this property. Dual unionism will not be allowed.

Are you just stupid, or what? The die is cast.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Are you just stupid, or what? The die is cast.

You have two choices, stop interfering or get a boot up your backside from Harper. Your little LLC is nothing more than a noise machine. Mind your business, not ours.

BUTT OUT

 

[Res Judicata]

The APA obviously understands what a DFR actually means as evidenced by that scab mouth piece Ted Reeds article. The APA is pushing for the West, So is the company, and so is the CERTIFIED class of West pilots. The only ones that don't get what DFR is, is the elderly bunch of aircraft crashing scabs based out East. You know, The "members" of some ridicous LLC from North Carolina.

Best of luck in the arbitrations scabs. I'm sure your abhorrent behavior won't come back to haunt you.

 

[Pi brat]

You have two choices, stop interfering or get a boot up your backside from Harper. Your little LLC is nothing more than a noise machine. Mind your business, not ours.

BUTT OUT

Yeah, but from the past it appears Harper wears about a size two!
 
Don't give up though, you've got it this time!

 

[Phoenix]

The APA obviously understands what a DFR actually means as evidenced by that scab mouth piece Ted Reeds article. The APA is pushing for the West, So is the company, and so is the CERTIFIED class of West pilots. The only ones that don't get what DFR is, is the elderly bunch of aircraft crashing scabs based out East. You know, The "members" of some ridicous LLC from North Carolina.
Best of luck in the arbitrations scabs. I'm sure your abhorrent behavior won't come back to haunt you.

You are a hoot.

 

[Pi brat]

I hope the west gets it's own merger committee.

 

[A320 Driver]

Two angry West pilots on this page...neither one understands the protocol agreement and that it defines how the SLI will be processed. It's signed by all parties (didn't need West buy in) and will be carried out, Harper be damned. IF the West wins the first arbitration, they will use the list effective December 9th, 2013. The protocol agreement says nothing about the NIC. I did see the proposed and updated NIC list Snap put out. Nice touch designating themselves 767 pilots. Nice try...

 

[A320 Driver]

Why so PI?

 

[luvthe9]

APA will take good care of you......trust me, and have your ckbook ready for your next DFR suit.

That's a no brainer!,,,,... Nothing like trying to sue you way to the top instead of earn it, sense of entitlement runs high with these young kids.

 

[luvthe9]

The APA obviously understands what a DFR actually means as evidenced by that scab mouth piece Ted Reeds article. The APA is pushing for the West, So is the company, and so is the CERTIFIED class of West pilots. The only ones that don't get what DFR is, is the elderly bunch of aircraft crashing scabs based out East. You know, The "members" of some ridicous LLC from North Carolina.
Best of luck in the arbitrations scabs. I'm sure your abhorrent behavior won't come back to haunt you.

Seek help Doyal.

 

[luvthe9]

Why so PI?

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I think it will hurt them if they go it alone, they have nothing and bring nothing into this merger,
PHX and all narrow body planes, give me a break, if they do get a seat it will be out in the hallway.

 

[Pi brat]

Why so PI?

With the MOU and status quo of 3 separate lists, I see some logic to it. If the USAPA formed committee is representing all groups, there is conflict. If just the east, conflict gone.
 
The problem I see is that the standing legal ruling says the west has no right to that, and in fact if they get it, it would create chaos. Of course Judge Silver said that the east had no right to separate representation, but all parties agreed to that.
 
I'm not sure a separate merger committee is all that good for the west, but if they want it...we'll see.

 

[EastCheats]

Two angry West pilots on this page...neither one understands the protocol agreement and that it defines how the SLI will be processed. It's signed by all parties (didn't need West buy in) and will be carried out, Harper be damned. IF the West wins the first arbitration, they will use the list effective December 9th, 2013. The protocol agreement says nothing about the NIC. I did see the proposed and updated NIC list Snap put out. Nice touch designating themselves 767 pilots. Nice try...

The East LLC will not represent the West with the APA's approval. You are mistaken about the Nic. He's on the APA's list of acceptable arbitrators.

 

[Pi brat]

The East LLC will not represent the West with the APA's approval. You are mistaken about the Nic. He's on the APA's list of acceptable arbitrators.

So, hasn't the APA already given it's approval? Haven't the arbitrators for BOTH arbitrations already been picked? Are you saying that the APA will not accept binding arbitration?