2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastCheats]

"Meaningless"????  That is your description.  NOT mine. 
 
Arbitration is meaningful BECAUSE there is a contract.  Without the 2005 TA contract between the consenting parties there would never have been an arbitration. The arbitration occurred as provided for.... because of the contract.  What's your problem? 
 
The terms of that same contract (the 2005 TA) also provided contingencies and stipulations regarding the arbitration award and had the same power and binding nature as the rest of the contract.... remember? ie. The contract that provided for the arbitration in the first place.   What's your problem?   
 
The word "nullity" in the MOU you guys voted for superseded all of the prior agreements.  What's your problem?
 
"your" problem is that you guys either have no ability to read, or in the alternative you chose to simply have no respect for the contracts.  Either way, you are easy targets for APA.....  if you are lucky the West won't be stuck with their AOL "leaders" representing them on their own merger committee.  
 
The Liberty Ties don't intimidate anyone outside of the PHX crew room.

It's obvious the ties do bother you because you all keep bringing it up. Your problem is that you can't get away with your little schemes and Leonidas stands in your way. The APA knows your game and you are not to be trusted. Eastcheaters.

 

[Phoenix]

It's obvious the ties do bother you because you all keep bringing it up. Your problem is that you can't get away with your little schemes and Leonidas stands in your way. The APA knows your game and you are not to be trusted. Eastcheaters.

 
 
We also keep bringing up the fantastic and professional youtube productions simply because they bother us so much, but not quite as much as those fearsome Liberty Neckties.
 
Your problem is being unfamiliar with the efficacy of contracts... Our problem is being afraid of Liberty Neckties.  
 
You win.    

 

[luvthe9]

It's obvious the ties do bother you because you all keep bringing it up. Your problem is that you can't get away with your little schemes and Leonidas stands in your way. The APA knows your game and you are not to be trusted. Eastcheaters.

Your in denial son call the EAP, getting help is the first step.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I know this is a very important issue to you, but the rest of the world really doesn't care. You might get some AA pilots that tell you that the east ' s actions were terrible, as I get some that tell me the Nic was an abomination. But 99% want what what's best for them and couldn't care less about our deal - unless it affects them in some way.

 
Exactly.
 
The west jerks think somehow that the APA wants the Nicolau list.  Now we hear that it is the easiest thing for them to do.  If, by some quirk, the APA actually presented the Nic list and it got instituted, they would have DFR suits from the Legacy AA pilots for using a list that was legally voided last December and putting them at a disadvantage in the process.
 
The Nic list is only "easy" in the minds of the witless westies.

 

[luvthe9]

 
The west jerks think somehow that the APA wants the Nicolau list.  

Surely the west pilots are not that stupid to think that, but then again............

 

[Res Judicata]

Surely the west pilots are not that stupid to think that, but then again............

You scabs didn't want the nic either, but you got it. You'll be thanking your lucky stars if that's all you end up with. The other thing morbidly obese lying scabs like you Courtney never understood is the fact that you don't get to decide. Either does the APA. This is going before the arbitration panel and the panic that knowledge strikes in to the heart of you zero-ethics, pricks is abundantly clear. AS IT SHOULD.

Watch the West pilots get advanced 20% up the nic list then folded into AMR. It's a distinct possibility....but judging from your collective scabs behavior, you already know that.

 

[traderjake]

 
If, by some quirk, the APA actually presented the Nic list and it got instituted, they would have DFR suits from the Legacy AA pilots for using a list that was legally voided last December and putting them at a disadvantage in the process.
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If this goes to arbitration the arbiters are free to combine the 3 lists anyway they see fit including slotting the East and West lists  to reflect the Nicolau Award, a proposal sure to be made by a West MC.
 
Good luck suing APA after a MB arbitration.

 

[TRAVIS]

Definition of ARBITRATION
: a process of settling an argument or disagreement in which the people or groups on both sides present their opinions and ideas to a third person or group

• 
  Both parties have agreed to (go to) arbitration.
  
• 
  a dispute settled by arbitration
  

What good would any ARBITRATION be if APA sets a presidents to not use a binding agreement that both parties agreed the dispute be settled by arbitration. 
 
GOOD LUCK BOYS! YA need to learn to play nice in the sand box..

 

[Piedmont1984]

Travis

Long story, but it was an arbitration with conditions. The conditions were never met and can never be met.

Thanks for stopping by. Go back to what you were doing.

'84

 

[EastCheats]

If this goes to arbitration the arbiters are free to combine the 3 lists anyway they see fit including slotting the East and West lists  to reflect the Nicolau Award, a proposal sure to be made by a West MC.
 
Good luck suing APA after a MB arbitration.

Exactly. The militants who want to take their fight to the APA will have no access to USAPA funds. They will be tied up. Have you seen a fundraising campaign started out East?

 

[A320 Driver]

If this goes to arbitration the arbiters are free to combine the 3 lists anyway they see fit including slotting the East and West lists  to reflect the Nicolau Award, a proposal sure to be made by a West MC.
 
Good luck suing APA after a MB arbitration.

A West MC would have authority over their list alone. Read it...

 

[A320 Driver]

Exactly. The militants who want to take their fight to the APA will have no access to USAPA funds. They will be tied up. Have you seen a fundraising campaign started out East?

That's easy.

 

[Piedmont1984]

Exactly. The militants who want to take their fight to the APA will have no access to USAPA funds. They will be tied up. Have you seen a fundraising campaign started out East?

Sure have. It was called the LOA93 reverse fund raising campaign to fight the Nic.

 

[EastCheats]

Sure have. It was called the LOA93 reverse fund raising campaign to cheat the Nic.

Yup

 

[Phoenix]

 
If this goes to arbitration the arbiters are free to combine the 3 lists anyway they see fit including slotting the East and West lists  to reflect the Nicolau Award, a proposal sure to be made by a West MC.
 
Good luck suing APA after a MB arbitration.

 
 
An arbitration panel could theoretically use the Nic to combine the East and West list relative to the 2005TA terms, or they could use DOH, or they could merge the status quo lists in effect in 2013, using methods of UAL/CAL and DAL/NWA (nahhh, never happen like that 😉 ).  
 
Regardless of how they do it AOL will sell ties for years to come, and no one will win any lawsuits.