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snapthis said:
I've enjoyed the comments of those who heard how the meeting went today. I saw Hummel, Streble and Colello. There was no need for armed guards or paramedics.
 
Two observations:
 
Hale made it clear he does not decide seniority, therefore whatever he thinks of Maliga is not going to influence to outcome.
 
Roghair has heard both East and West views on seniority and is 99% sure of the West getting a seat at the bargaining table.
 
Conclusion, no worries.
Roghair doesn't know what he is talking about. You going to sue him for making a statement he has no legal basis to make?

And that guy runs a national union. Typical.
 
snapthis said:
I've enjoyed the comments of those who heard how the meeting went today. I saw Hummel, Streble and Colello. There was no need for armed guards or paramedics.
 
Two observations:
 
Hale made it clear he does not decide seniority, therefore whatever he thinks of Maliga is not going to influence to outcome.
 
Roghair has heard both East and West views on seniority and is 99% sure of the West getting a seat at the bargaining table.
 
Conclusion, no worries.
Oh, one more thing: looking at lawsuits for years to come.
 
Claxon said:
tony anger and eric auxier, west pilots with raincoats on at 9:46 in the video.
 
Hale, I am sure, was intimidated by the west pilot anger, not tony, their emotions.  PHX is the epicenter of american airlines long term plans, how cruel can the west pilots get.   (sarcasm)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjeGrwGFGCo&list=PL21C1C7D32B996827
Eric Auxier, co anchor of Internet Trash Talk News, is a paragon on integrity.  Just read what he wrote about getting his job at a major airline. This is taken directly from his blog.
 
http://capnaux.com/bif-is-the-pilot-shortage-really-looming/
 
[After I pushed, shoved, lied, cheated, backstabbed, clawed and climbed my way into the airline cockpit, I came to realize that the LPS is one of the longest standing jokes among airline pilots] (after, of course, “Nice landing, Captain.”)]  (Note: LPS = Looming Pilot shortage)
 
MUTATIS MUTANDIS said:
Did Roghair buy a tie? Remember Genius is 99% perspiration and 1 % inspiration!  My guess he is out of deodorant and legal alternatives!
end_of_alpa said:
Roghair doesn't know what he is talking about. You going to sue him for making a statement he has no legal basis to make?

And that guy runs a national union. Typical.
Roghair admitted he's going to be involved in the most complicated seniority integration ever. He's got the AA Eagle/ Envoy pilots threatening lawsuits. He acknowledged the different groups in his ear and that he signed up, even seemed to welcome the challenge.
 
Funny didn't see you there Jamie. Of course cleary no showed but Thuer's squeeze was in attendance. Just streble Hummel and les Edwards.

Of course the Safety committee chair no showed after being outed for moving Allegiant aircraft around the PHX area, using his I'm sure pristine iPad and QRH. The un-name FO was also east....Courtney, oh Courtney was that you? Seems the Allegiant pilots were none to happy about that....

Yes Hale caught an ear full. He needs to hear it from the source.

Maybe you insiders can't enlighten us on usapa's PA that would allow the TWA pilots a seat at the table also. What's symanski got cooked up? You going to let the empire and trump folks a seat too?

Maybe ole 3-300/17-1 will get a seat too....
 
snapthis said:
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Roghair has heard both East and West views on seniority and is 99% sure of the West getting a seat at the bargaining table.
 
Conclusion, no worries.

Do you really want a seat on your own, a bankrupt airline on the verge of liquidation, no future potential other than to ride on our coat tails, one dying little base, no wide body's and no international routes overseas. Another stupid move, remember Ferguson and Koontz lied and screwed all the west pilots.
 
This is sounding great everyone lining up lawyers, Years of litigation Roghair knows it will be a long long time for this to ever get settled, very good for APA and US east, attrition baby!!
 
traderjake said:
"OUR"
 
LMOA!
 
There is no "OUR", there's APA, West, and East.

Well with that logic I guess the APA does not represent the TWA, Reno and Air Cal guys, only two unions here.
 
luvthe9 said:
Well with that logic I guess the APA does not represent the TWA, Reno and Air Cal guys, only two unions here.
 
What planet you live on?
 
The West is not going to help you fight APA for DOH no matter how many times you ask. :lol:  
 
snapthis said:
I've enjoyed the comments of those who heard how the meeting went today. I saw Hummel, Streble and Colello. There was no need for armed guards or paramedics.
 
Two observations:
 
Hale made it clear he does not decide seniority, therefore whatever he thinks of Maliga is not going to influence to outcome.
 
Roghair has heard both East and West views on seniority and is 99% sure of the West getting a seat at the bargaining table.
 
Conclusion, no worries.

That 1% legal certainty always trumps the 99% bullship.
 
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