2014 Pilot Discussion

[luvthe9]

You were played by John and his ilk and still don't realize it.

Only ones being played are the west pilots by Ferguson, Koontz and Marty, luv those 675 dollar ties.

 

[snapthis]

Yes, new material for your next video production. Harry Potter will be jealous.

LuvClaxon provides all the material that is need for a good

 

[luvthe9]

LuvClaxon provides all the material that is need for a good

I feel another west meltdown coming soon.

 

[snapthis]

I feel another west meltdown coming soon.

Meltdown? Do you believe in global warming?

I don't buy into the my airplane contrail contributes to "climate change" liberal agenda crowd. I do believe in continental drift and see you paying the price in chasing the DOH dream will leave you adrift without a paddle

http://www.com/watch?v=q_IYQdKkWsU&sns=em

 

[luvthe9]

Meltdown? Do you believe in global warming?
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Yes, but for sure I foresee a long hot miserable very "stagnant" summer in PHX. Enjoy!! How's that NIC working for all of you, guess you don't need a paddle stuck on the " island".

 

[snapthis]

Yes, but for sure I foresee a long hot miserable very "stagnant" summer in PHX. Enjoy!! How's that NIC working for all of you, guess you don't need a paddle stuck on the " island".

Actually, it's very nice in E Arizona. Temps in the low 80's, trout biting. How's Tempe town lake? Are the carp biting?

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Nic? I expect he will be making an appearance with the West reps. 😉

 

[luvthe9]

Actually, it's very nice in E Arizona. Temps in the low 80's, trout biting. How's Tempe town lake? Are the carp biting?

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Nic? I expect he will be making an appearance with the West reps. 😉

Live out east son, you have me confused with someone else. NIC, tic toc tic toc............

 

[mrbreeze]

Mike, 

The Legacy Airline pilot Belief system. 

The LBS provides the justification for pilot on pilot violence, be it stapling TWA, AWA, AirTran during mergers 

Pardon me, maybe I missed something. Where is there any indication that the East pilots want to staple the AWA pilots to the bottom of their seniority list? 
 
breeze

 

[Claxon]

Pardon me, maybe I missed something. Where is there any indication that the East pilots want to staple the AWA pilots to the bottom of their seniority list? 
 
breeze

Meltdown? Do you believe in global warming?
I don't buy into the my airplane contrail contributes to "climate change" liberal agenda crowd. I do believe in continental drift and see you paying the price in chasing the DOH dream will leave you adrift without a paddle http://www.com/watch?v=q_IYQdKkWsU&sns=em

Of course you don't Tony. It is all just one big conspiracy.
The real conspiracy is how you want a job someone had years before you even began flying.

 

[Claxon]

Pardon me, maybe I missed something. Where is there any indication that the East pilots want to staple the AWA pilots to the bottom of their seniority list? 
 
breeze

The america west pilots want to staple themselves on top.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Mike, would you like your bust to be placed in the entrance to the soon to be busted Usapian HQ? Would you like an urn where one can worship at Usapian temple of dupe? The Church of LBS.
Let Courtney know I found out about the LBS faith on the internet......
"The Legacy Airline pilot Belief system. This Legacy Belief System (LBS) incorporates a certain hierarchy of entitlement and position within the industry ranking system amongst pilots based on aircraft type, airline and LOS/DOH. The hierarchy is Legacy, Major, Regional; legacy subcategory shifts but is currently Delta, AMR, United, SWA then the dead legaciesTWA, Eastern etc. The East did not mouth off to DAL in 2006 because DAL was Top Dog. Then you have wide body vs. narrow and DOH, which is why the EAST introduce themselves as wide body international Captain before speaking to Dougthey are displaying their rank in the LBS. FEDEX and UPS trump legacy airlines.
The LBS provides the justification for pilot on pilot violence, be it stapling TWA, AWA, AirTran during mergers or wide body vs. narrow or senior vs. junior pilot groups during contract negotiation strategies (UEL vs. RC4 at AAA). They believe only the best pilots were selected at their airline and everyone else just did not cut the mustard during the interview process. The losers went somewhere else, somewhere else being a lesser airline within the belief system hierarchy of airlines.
According to the belief system, no matter how bad it is in a legacy, no other place is as good, regardless of contract superiority. Pay defines status amongst the legacy pilot mind, which is why being highest paid during some point in history is worn like a credentialing badge of honor defining the pecking order amongst the big 3 legacy airline pilot groups. This bias and belief system is written into our MOU, as we are compared to DAL and UAL pay. The pay thingy does not apply if a major airline contract pays more than a legacy contract as in AWA vs. AAA because legacy trumps major. Even liquidating airlines or liquidated legacies trump major in this LBS Collective Mind as we continuously see.
The LBS provides the justification to abuse power to backstab lesser groups for money or use them as furlough fodder via staple because as lesser pilots, they are waiting in line to some day be lucky enough to be a Legacy Pilot. Non-legacy pilots are Rookies, period. James Anderson explained the LBS to Silver in his manifesto letter. While LBS provides the moral justification for abuse, Pilot Numbers provide the power to execute and apply this system of Airline Pilot Crow on other, lesser pilots. How far they go down the slope depends upon the groups core values development; we were wed to the bottom feeders in this area, unfortunately.
Unfortunately, in every step of arbitration and litigation, we battle this belief system of prejudice. We battle it in the public media too. Good old Ted biases the public every other month or so and that public might include judges. Only the fear of lawsuits keeps things in check, a fact recognized by legacy pilots too as evidenced by them putting paragraph 10 in the MOU as a risk mitigation strategy as they commit DFR to uphold the LBS and their position within it."

What a bunch of BS.

Not a cogent thought in this AWA rant.

 

[luvthe9]

The america west pilots want to staple themselves on top.

They do a very good job of that.

 

[luvthe9]

What a bunch of BS.
Not a cogent thought in this AWA rant.

It's just a stress response to the failure of the AOL kids. What a stupid group of pilots! They could be on wide body's and moving of quite a bit, nothing but self destruction.

 

[Claxon]

Mike, would you like your bust to be placed in the entrance to the soon to be busted Usapian HQ? Would you like an urn where one can worship at Usapian temple of dupe? The Church of LBS.
Let Courtney know I found out about the LBS faith on the internet......
"The Legacy Airline pilot Belief system. This Legacy Belief System (LBS) incorporates a certain hierarchy of entitlement and position within the industry ranking system amongst pilots based on aircraft type, airline and LOS/DOH. The hierarchy is Legacy, Major, Regional; legacy subcategory shifts but is currently Delta, AMR, United, SWA then the dead legaciesTWA, Eastern etc. The East did not mouth off to DAL in 2006 because DAL was Top Dog. Then you have wide body vs. narrow and DOH, which is why the EAST introduce themselves as wide body international Captain before speaking to Dougthey are displaying their rank in the LBS. FEDEX and UPS trump legacy airlines.
The LBS provides the justification for pilot on pilot violence, be it stapling TWA, AWA, AirTran during mergers or wide body vs. narrow or senior vs. junior pilot groups during contract negotiation strategies (UEL vs. RC4 at AAA). They believe only the best pilots were selected at their airline and everyone else just did not cut the mustard during the interview process. The losers went somewhere else, somewhere else being a lesser airline within the belief system hierarchy of airlines.
According to the belief system, no matter how bad it is in a legacy, no other place is as good, regardless of contract superiority. Pay defines status amongst the legacy pilot mind, which is why being highest paid during some point in history is worn like a credentialing badge of honor defining the pecking order amongst the big 3 legacy airline pilot groups. This bias and belief system is written into our MOU, as we are compared to DAL and UAL pay. The pay thingy does not apply if a major airline contract pays more than a legacy contract as in AWA vs. AAA because legacy trumps major. Even liquidating airlines or liquidated legacies trump major in this LBS Collective Mind as we continuously see.
The LBS provides the justification to abuse power to backstab lesser groups for money or use them as furlough fodder via staple because as lesser pilots, they are waiting in line to some day be lucky enough to be a Legacy Pilot. Non-legacy pilots are Rookies, period. James Anderson explained the LBS to Silver in his manifesto letter. While LBS provides the moral justification for abuse, Pilot Numbers provide the power to execute and apply this system of Airline Pilot Crow on other, lesser pilots. How far they go down the slope depends upon the groups core values development; we were wed to the bottom feeders in this area, unfortunately.
Unfortunately, in every step of arbitration and litigation, we battle this belief system of prejudice. We battle it in the public media too. Good old Ted biases the public every other month or so and that public might include judges. Only the fear of lawsuits keeps things in check, a fact recognized by legacy pilots too as evidenced by them putting paragraph 10 in the MOU as a risk mitigation strategy as they commit DFR to uphold the LBS and their position within it."

Liberal gibberish. Bottom line is the AWA agenda is a socialist one. It rewards those who showed up late quotas and positions for years never served.
SpinTony is actually a liberal closet dweller. When it comes down to it, he wants your job. A job you had years before he arrived. The rest is Gen X spew.
This is what happens when the X Box raises the kids.

 

[luvthe9]

Liberal gibberish. Bottom line is the AWA agenda is a socialist one. It rewards those who showed up late quotas and positions for years never served.
SpinTony is actually a liberal closet dweller. When it comes down to it, he wants your job. A job you had years before he arrived. The rest is Gen X spew.
This is what happens when the X Box raises the kids.

The boy does have some severe mental issues.