2014 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

I like women a little more substantial.
 
What is the difference between an pilot and a pig?
 
The pig doesn't turn into a pilot when it's drunk.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Are you going to report yourself, Jamie?
I picture the chief pilot sitting there looking at the pile of web board, postings, ties and bag tag stickers you bring in and then letting out laugh after you leave.
Take some advice from your "Westicle" friend and grow a pair or get thicker skin. 😉

I just speak to you and yours on a level that only you and yours understand, Tony.

Oh, you mean like the $675 "patriotic ties" all of you wear? The joke of the industry is you west pilots....still irrelevant in PHX I might add.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Hey, BTW, what's Fergie and Koontz up to lately?

 

[USA320Pilot]

United MEC Legislative Affairs Committee Update: June 9, 2014 
 
Today, the U.S. House of Representatives is expected to take up the FY 2015 Transportation Appropriations Bill (HR 4745). An amendment will be offered by Reps. Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA) and Peter DeFazio (D-OR) to Deny NAI! Specifically, the amendment will prohibit the DOT from spending funds to approve any application for a foreign air carrier permit that runs counter to U.S. law or Article 17 (the labor clause) of the EU-US Open Skies agreement.

Debate on the bill will begin at 2 p.m.today. Votes will take place no earlier than 6:30 p.m. this evening and could continue into Tuesday. We must make sure that every member of the House of Representatives hears from pilots in support of the Westmoreland-DeFazio amendment. 

ALPA's Call to Actionis now active. Please Click Here to access the ALPA Call to Action. All the pertinent information will be contained at this site.

This is a short turnaround effort. The bill will be on the floor today/maybe Tuesday, so please act quickly and encourage others to do so as well. A lot is on the line. 

Thank you for your commitment and your efforts. 

Now, Let's Deny NAI!

United MEC Legislative Affairs Team
 
This European Low-Cost Carrier Is Recruiting Pilots in New York -- And It's a Brilliant Move
 
The three airlines, along with their joint-venture partners, control the vast majority of traffic between Europe and the U.S. Indeed, they collectively have a much more dominant position on routes to Europe than for domestic flights. The three legacy carriers have made a show of solidarity with the Air Line Pilots Association. They have argued that Norwegian would violate the spirit of the Treaty on Open Skies by flying between the U.S. and the U.K. despite having its headquarters in Norway and its long-haul subsidiary registered in Ireland, while using pilots recruited in Singapore and based in Bangkok.

The pilots' union has accused Norwegian of undermining U.S. labor standards

See Story: http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...ing-pilot.aspx

 

[USA320Pilot]

United MEC Legislative Affairs Committee Update: June 9, 2014 
 
Today, the U.S. House of Representatives is expected to take up the FY 2015 Transportation Appropriations Bill (HR 4745). An amendment will be offered by Reps. Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA) and Peter DeFazio (D-OR) to Deny NAI! Specifically, the amendment will prohibit the DOT from spending funds to approve any application for a foreign air carrier permit that runs counter to U.S. law or Article 17 (the labor clause) of the EU-US Open Skies agreement.

Debate on the bill will begin at 2 p.m.today. Votes will take place no earlier than 6:30 p.m. this evening and could continue into Tuesday. We must make sure that every member of the House of Representatives hears from pilots in support of the Westmoreland-DeFazio amendment. 

ALPA's Call to Actionis now active. Please Click Here to access the ALPA Call to Action. All the pertinent information will be contained at this site.

This is a short turnaround effort. The bill will be on the floor today/maybe Tuesday, so please act quickly and encourage others to do so as well. A lot is on the line. 

Thank you for your commitment and your efforts. 

Now, Let's Deny NAI!

United MEC Legislative Affairs Team
 
This European Low-Cost Carrier Is Recruiting Pilots in New York -- And It's a Brilliant Move
 
The three airlines, along with their joint-venture partners, control the vast majority of traffic between Europe and the U.S. Indeed, they collectively have a much more dominant position on routes to Europe than for domestic flights. The three legacy carriers have made a show of solidarity with the Air Line Pilots Association. They have argued that Norwegian would violate the spirit of the Treaty on Open Skies by flying between the U.S. and the U.K. despite having its headquarters in Norway and its long-haul subsidiary registered in Ireland, while using pilots recruited in Singapore and based in Bangkok.

The pilots' union has accused Norwegian of undermining U.S. labor standards

See Story: http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...ing-pilot.aspx

 
Where's USAPA? ALPA is once again leading the way for the profession, just like with KCM (have you noticed every KCM sign has the TSA and ALPA logo together?), but where's USAPA's support? Oh yea...The only thing that really matters to USAPA and their supporters is to virtually stapling the entire West pilot SL to the bottom of the USAPA proposed joint US Airways-AWA ISL and then going to M-B with a 2-way arbitration with USAPA acting like a union on FPL post SCC. 

 

[USA320Pilot]

APFA and AFA-CWA Jointly Petition NMB for Single Carrier Determination: June 9, 2014
 
Today in Washington, D.C., APFA and AFA-CWA jointly petitioned the National Mediation Board for single carrier determination. The NMB now must review the petition, and we expect it to determine that the operations of American and US Airways are sufficiently combined to allow a single union to represent the craft and class of Flight Attendants at the new airline. APFA has informed the National Mediation Board that we wish to be the representative of the combined work group. AFA has informed the National Mediation Board that it will not seek to be the representative.

This is another important step towards our collective goal of building the world's greatest airline. Employees are what set successful companies apart. In the case of the new American Airlines, it will be the 24,000 Flight Attendants - the face of the new American - that will put American back on top.

As you know, APFA and AFA-CWA reached a series of agreements that will dictate how the Flight Attendants of the new American will be represented and how a joint contract will be negotiated. The innovative solution paved the way for APFA to take on the responsibilities of representing the combined workgroup. However, the tasks of administering the current contracts and negotiating a joint contract are shared by both unions. Once the NMB makes its determination in favor of APFA's petition, the 8,000 pre-merger US Airways Flight Attendants, along with the 16,000 pre-merger American Airlines Flight Attendants, will be represented by APFA. Until a joint contract is reached, however, under an agreement with APFA, AFA-CWA will continue to administer the current US Airways/AFA contract.

On behalf of the entire APFA leadership, I want to thank you for all that you do to make our Union and our airline great.

Sincerely,

Laura Glading
APFA President

 

[USA320Pilot]

APFA and AFA-CWA Jointly Petition NMB for Single Carrier Determination: June 9, 2014
 
Today in Washington, D.C., APFA and AFA-CWA jointly petitioned the National Mediation Board for single carrier determination. The NMB now must review the petition, and we expect it to determine that the operations of American and US Airways are sufficiently combined to allow a single union to represent the craft and class of Flight Attendants at the new airline. APFA has informed the National Mediation Board that we wish to be the representative of the combined work group. AFA has informed the National Mediation Board that it will not seek to be the representative.

This is another important step towards our collective goal of building the world's greatest airline. Employees are what set successful companies apart. In the case of the new American Airlines, it will be the 24,000 Flight Attendants - the face of the new American - that will put American back on top.

As you know, APFA and AFA-CWA reached a series of agreements that will dictate how the Flight Attendants of the new American will be represented and how a joint contract will be negotiated. The innovative solution paved the way for APFA to take on the responsibilities of representing the combined workgroup. However, the tasks of administering the current contracts and negotiating a joint contract are shared by both unions. Once the NMB makes its determination in favor of APFA's petition, the 8,000 pre-merger US Airways Flight Attendants, along with the 16,000 pre-merger American Airlines Flight Attendants, will be represented by APFA. Until a joint contract is reached, however, under an agreement with APFA, AFA-CWA will continue to administer the current US Airways/AFA contract.

On behalf of the entire APFA leadership, I want to thank you for all that you do to make our Union and our airline great.

Sincerely,

Laura Glading
APFA President
 

 
Is the APFA's petition one more step closer to the NMB ruling APA is the new union for all New American Airlines? How will this affect the NMB's SCC ruling, USAPA's M-B lawsuit, APA & AAG's counter suit, and the pending M-B arbitration, if held? 

 

[Harry Callahan]

Just curious, where are you all at with the AA pilots ?
 
Harry

 

[usabusdriver]

The airbus has many more modes of flight than you are taught in school..

 
 
That is what TOGA is for.  
 
In the Airbus it eliminates any conflicting or inadvertent A/T or F/D modes, that may have become engaged or encountered.  It allows one to then correct the problem and reengage the automation.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Just curious, where are you all at with the AA pilots ?
 
Harry

 
CM, at least, is "good buddies" not only with the AA pilots, but with the westicles, too.
 
The rest of us?  We're enjoying the delays (especially the new-hire captains and wide-body F/Os.)
 
USAPA, or if necessary USAPA LLC, is ready, willing and able to fund lawsuits if the APA oversteps.
 
(Somebody told me we still have a presence in PHX.  I thought Parker closed that rathole months ago.)

 

[nevergiveup]

Just curious, where are you all at with the AA pilots ?
 
Harry

APA-happy! (collect attrition)
USAPA-happy (collect attrition)
Company-happy! (no new contract)
West...well...not as happy I suppose......but more time to wear new ties!

 

[nevergiveup]

 
Is the APFA's petition one more step closer to the NMB ruling APA is the new union for all New American Airlines? How will this affect the NMB's SCC ruling, USAPA's M-B lawsuit, APA & AAG's counter suit, and the pending M-B arbitration, if held? 

Will have an answer for you in 1-10 years...but we will both be out of here if it takes the longer! Fly our trips, have a cold one at the end of the day, bring in the dog, throw out the cat...ect

 

[algflyr]

....
 
The innovative solution paved the way for APFA to take on the responsibilities of representing the combined workgroup. However, the tasks of administering the current contracts and negotiating a joint contract are shared by both unions. Once the NMB makes its determination in favor of APFA's petition, the 8,000 pre-merger US Airways Flight Attendants, along with the 16,000 pre-merger American Airlines Flight Attendants, will be represented by APFA. Until a joint contract is reached, however, under an agreement with APFA, AFA-CWA will continue to administer the current US Airways/AFA contract.
 

 
Interesting you post this Chip. Do you feel this is wrong?? We all know you feel it is when pertaining to the pilots. Are you going to speak out publicly that the AFA should be completely gone immediately when the NMB rules the APFA is the new union for the FA's?? Just curious...

 

[Phoenix]

APA-happy! (collect attrition)
USAPA-happy (collect attrition)
Company-happy! (no new contract)
West...well...not as happy I suppose......but more time to wear new ties!

 
At $675, it would be good to get full life expectancy out of it through normal wear and tear, rather than retire it to the closet with unused years and mileage available.  

 

[mrbreeze]

 
Is the APFA's petition one more step closer to the NMB ruling APA is the new union for all New American Airlines? How will this affect the NMB's SCC ruling, USAPA's M-B lawsuit, APA & AAG's counter suit, and the pending M-B arbitration, if held? 

I must ask, Chip Brewster, why is your line of questioning exactly the same as Senator Brewster's questioning that tried to bury TWA, which was run by Howard Hughes at the time? Brewster threw out a lot of misleading questions designed to bury TWA, while Brewster was bought out by Pan Am during the hearings. You are not a pilot at heart, just another leach of a politician. 
 
I find it very ironic that you, CM, pretend to be the "best friend of the pilots", while obviously you have a different personal agenda. What is so fukin stupid about it is that ANYONE that reads these boards can see right through your rouse, yet you continue on. Talk about a court jester. No one has any respect for you. IMO, somehow you are only interested in lining your own pockets and don't care at all about aviation.
 
You definitely do not have a single pilot's best interest in mind, just your own agenda. So sad that you can't see what a failure you are with your posts.
breeze