2014 Pilot Discussion

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46 page PowerPoint...?  46 pages?    
 
First, PowerPoint is made of "slides" not "pages"..
 
But the real issue...  A 46 slide presentation (to someone of Hales level) is akin to assault and battery.  If Hale actually let them drone through 46 slides then he was extremely gracious....  you can be sure of one thing...
 
Hale's apparent accommodation of that colossal waste of time was the full extent of his gifts.  The West is now deeper in debt, but still think that the. "Nic or nothing" strategy is the best course forward. 😀

46 page PowerPoint...?  46 pages?    
 
First, PowerPoint is made of "slides" not "pages"..
 
But the real issue...  A 46 slide presentation (to someone of Hales level) is akin to assault and battery.  If Hale actually let them drone through 46 slides then he was extremely gracious....  you can be sure of one thing...
 
Hale's apparent accommodation of that colossal waste of time was the full extent of his gifts.  The West is now deeper in debt, but still think that the. "Nic or nothing" strategy is the best course forward. 😀

What PowerPoint presentation? Anyone got a link or copy?

 

[Claxon]

Are US Airways' Pilots Mushrooms? Where is USAPA's Transparency?
 
Nearly 3 weeks ago on April 28th USAPA held their last BPR conference call (where rank-and-file members could not watch or listen to the meeting) where the Board passed a resolution that authorized a new draft PA to be provided to APA the very next day on April 29th. In addition, USAPA passed a Union Merger Transition Agreement, Global Agreement, and M-B lawsuit settlement proposal that was also sent to APA. Two days later on May 1st USAPA told the pilots that "we do expect a timely response from APA."[/size]But, that's the last the pilots have heard from USAPA. How come?[/size]Did APA respond to USAPA's proposals? Did APA ignore USAPA's proposals? Or was APA and AAG seeking a "Stay" to the M-B lawsuit proceedings along with a Motion to Compel USAPA to honor the pilot's contractual and RLA requirement to arbitrate minor disputes the actual APA BOD response to the BPR's April 28th resolution? [/size]And, what's the status of the Company scheduling an arbitration on June 15-17, 2014 with Arbitrator Bloch and USAPA ignoring its requirement to arbitrate per the RLA when a grievance has been filed?[/size]Why is USAPA keeping the pilots in the dark? Are US Airways' pilots mushrooms who do not need to know what USAPA and APA may or may not be discussing with so much on the line? What does USAPA not want the pilots to know? [/size]Where's the open, honest, and transparent communication from this illustrious union whose WWHQs are located on Woodlawn Avenue?[/size]

The transparent union is doing just fine. It has vanquished Leonidas with your help. You fed so much bad intel to the polygraph expert Doyal, who fed it to the Leonidas storm troopers. All bad info. Doyal the Prosecuter couldn't litigate anything more complicated than a traffic stop.
He, Ferguson, Koontz and Marty were merely a circle jerk of half assed lawyers trying to figure out how they got served by USAPA in every encounter.

 

[Claxon]

What PowerPoint presentation? Anyone got a link or copy?

Standby

 

[nycbusdriver]

What PowerPoint presentation? Anyone got a link or copy?
 
 

Standby

 

 
Yeah....I'd like to see it, too.  Probably a real hoot...but I doubt the AWAPPA whiners would allow me to join their site so I could see it.

 

[luvthe9]

The transparent union is doing just fine. It has vanquished Leonidas with your help. You fed so much bad intel to the polygraph expert Doyal, who fed it to the Leonidas storm troopers. All bad info. Doyal the Prosecuter couldn't litigate anything more complicated than a traffic stop.
He, Ferguson, Koontz and Marty were merely a circle jerk of half assed lawyers trying to figure out how they got served by USAPA in every encounter.

Exactly, remember when Munn is on your side be very afraid.


"Captain Munn says USAPA is not transparent, but gives no examples. For those who remember ALPAs closed executive session meetings, USAPAs openness is a breath of fresh air."


"Captain Munn and his few supporters have put out a constant stream of misrepresentations that are easily disproved."


"We have learned that when Captain Munn is involved, be very afraid, if hes on your side of the issue. "


"There are a number of job killers in the company proposal that Captain Munn refuses to admit. The biggest potential job killer in Kirby is the elimination of the current aircraft minimums found in the Transition Agreement."


" I just wanted to counter the grossly exaggerated claims of Captain Munn. Except for a few pilots near the top of their equipment and seat, the companys current proposal does not live up to Captain Munns claim of tens of thousands extra dollars in our pockets. Instead, his facts are aimed at creating disunity and disagreement. His brand of "facts" need to be exposed for what they are."

 

[dariencc]

 
Says the guy who liked the DC9.
 
That was a piece of junk, a DC8 without a Flight Engineer.

 
The plane was a gas to fly.  IF you could fly.
 
The guys who hated the 9 were usually the ones like you.  Overmatched. 
 
For some, the autopilot is not just a tool, it's like the lifeline on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire."
 
You also spent a short time in the left seat of the 73, never to return.  I think I see a pattern.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnrTq9Y-uJY

 

[AWE Dog]

Somebody has to come up with this PowerPoint. What's the problem? Nobody wants out of PHX and they make money than they ever have. Sounds like AWE heaven to me....

 

[Zone5]

Personally, I listen to what Trator has to say and find it to be very usefull insight, because.........If the "Chipster" is fer it, I'm agin it!


seajay

 

[Freighterguynow]

Are US Airways' Pilots Mushrooms? Where is USAPA's Transparency?
 
Did APA respond to USAPA's proposals? Did APA ignore USAPA's proposals? ?[/size][/font][/color][/background]

The APA responded to the USAPA proposal unless they didn't therby ignoring it.

 

[Al Legheny]

http://www.visitphoenix.com/getting-around/airport-information/index.aspx
 
[SIZE=12pt]Number of Daily Nonstop Flights to Phoenix**[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Some of the most popular cities include:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Albuquerque - 13[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Mazatlan, Mexico - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Atlanta - 11[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Mexico City, Mexico - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Austin[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 8[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Minneapolis[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 13[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Baltimore - 5[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]New York[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 15*[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Boston[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 4[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Omaha[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 4[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Burbank[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 11[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Orlando[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 3[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Calgary, Canada - 5[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Philadelphia[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 7[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Cancun, Mexico - 1[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Pittsburgh[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 3[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Chicago[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 21*[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Portland, Ore[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 10[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Cleveland[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Puerta Vallarta, Mexico - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Dallas/Ft. Worth[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 14[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Reno - 7[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Denver[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 24[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Sacramento[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 10[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Detroit[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 9[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Salt Lake City[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 17[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Edmonton, Canada - 3[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]San Antonio - 7[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]El Paso - 11[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]San Diego[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 19[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Guadalajara, Mexico - 3[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]San Francisco[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 24*[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Hermosillo, Mexico - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]San Jose, Costa Rica - 1[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Houston[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 14*[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Seattle[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 15[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Kansas City[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 6[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]St. Louis[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 6[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Las Vegas[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 20[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Toronto, Canada - 2[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]London - 1[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Tucson - 10[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Los Angeles[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt] - 58*[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Vancouver, Canada - 3[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Los Cabos, Mexico - 4[/SIZE]


[SIZE=12pt]Washington, D.C[/SIZE][SIZE=12pt]. - 9*[/SIZE]

 
This is a list of non-stops out of PHX.  If you want to compare look at the SWA route map and you will see where they go.  How can a hub that is already marginal survive with the increased costs associated with the new contract.  Something will have to change.  

 

[Claxon]

DEPOSITION OF DAVID BRAID
 
Phoenix, Arizona
August 28, 2013
9:21 a.m.
 
 
 
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
DON ADDINGTON, et al., )
)
Plaintiffs, ) No. CV-13-00471-
) PHX-ROS
v. )
)
US AIRLINE PILOTS ASS'N, )
et al., )
)
Defendants. )
_______________________________)
DEPOSITION OF DAVID BRAID
Phoenix, Arizona
August 28, 2013
9:21 a.m.
REPORTED BY:
Janice Gonzales, RPR, CRR
AZ Certified Court
Reporter No. 50844
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 217-2 Filed 10/12/13 Page 2 of 4
David Braid - 8/28/2013
www.drivernix.com
Driver and Nix Court Reporters - (602) 266-6525
Page 45
 
Q=USAPA Attorneys 
 
A=David Braid, america west pilot and former recently anointed west pilot ambassador to american airline pilots.
 
 
1. A. We've already done a neutral process. I
2 don't know why we'd  have to do another one.
 
3 Q. When you say you've already done a
4 neutral process, you did not do a neutral process
5 with USAPA; is that correct?
 
6 A. Correct.
 
7 Q. Okay. So what you're saying is, it's
8 Nicolau or nothing; is that right?
 
9 A. Yes.
 
10 Q. And you agree that it should be Nic or
11 nothing?
 
12 A. Yes.
 
13 Q. So that no effort by USAPA to reach a
14 mutually satisfactory conclusion would be worthwhile
15 unless it culminated in the Nicolau award; is that
16 right?
 
17 A. Right.
 
18Q. So is Nic or nothing any different than
19 my way or the highway? That's your position?..............................??????????
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_217-2_Exhibit_U.pdf

 

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The plane was a gas to fly.  IF you could fly.
 
The guys who hated the 9 were usually the ones like you.  Overmatched. 
 
For some, the autopilot is not just a tool, it's like the lifeline on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire."
 
You also spent a short time in the left seat of the 73, never to return.  I think I see a pattern.
 

The "9" was a fighter pilots airliner. It flew like a dream and it was the most mechanically sound aircraft if it was kept up maintenance wise.... Which US Airways mechanics did to a "T". It was so clean in the tailcone you could eat off floor. I really miss it.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Well DB , Guess you get your dream , PHX isolated and situated till the provisions of the states legal agreements run out! My guess 2018!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

DB OBTW, no NIC you MORON!

 

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"David, taking the invitation very seriously, spent countless hours of his free time researching and preparing a 46-page PowerPoint presentation to present to Captains Hale and Johnson. In composing the presentation,"
 
"David spoke to several respected AWA subject matter experts,"
 
ferguson and koontz 
(poster added sarcasm)
 
"and in addition consulted company SEC filings and other citable sources upon which his presentation was based to ensure factual accuracy."
 
we saved the East Pilots and you american pilots, capice.
(poster added sarcasm)
 
"David even went so far as to consult the PHX Chief Pilots office in advance of the meeting, and received their blessing and support."
 
and East pilots personal ID information.
(poster added sarcasm)