2014 Pilot Discussion

[Barrister]

Welcome to the Jungle.   Did you forget who you work for???
 
NICDOA
NPJB

 

[Phoenix]

Operational meltdown? Just a friendly reminder guys. USAPA is still under a federal injunction that prohibits any job action. You know, the one that some of you did everything possible to put in place, cheered when it came out, and protested against being lifted. Watch yourselves.

 
 
I suppose its easy to fire pilots willfully disregarding a judge order.... and it may not be much harder than "easy" to fine them personally, let them continue working, and garnish their wages....
 
"Watch yourselves..."  Exactly!

 

[nycbusdriver]

I have always said, If enough time goes by the west will BEG for DOH. Bid closes tomorrow .

 
Even if they now began to "BEG" for DOH, how could that even work?  
 
For now, it's up to the APA and USAPA merger committees to come up with a negotiated SLI.  If it happens, who can tell how it will look?
 
If it doesn't happen, what will be presented to the M-B panel of arbitrators?  Will USAPA present two lists?  Will the panel even accept two lists from one side?  If not, will USAPA have the cojones to simply combine its two working lists by DOH and present it to the M-B arbitrators?  YoW!  Would even THAT list be acceptable, since it is not a "working" list, nor would the company have accepted it.
 
What a legal cesspit!

 

[Claxon]

Operational meltdown? Just a friendly reminder guys. USAPA is still under a federal injunction that prohibits any job action. You know, the one that some of you did everything possible to put in place, cheered when it came out, and protested against being lifted. Watch yourselves.

Perhaps Capn Aux will roll out another safety football video. One he and T Bone Anger can star in. Mark Peeper will star in a Planet video. This time- Planet Phoenix. Captain Steve Gay can approach Parker in his creepy manner in another crew news. Raincoat man will mystify a visiting Capt Hale.
One consolation, Steve Gay aka Airbusguy2000 will only have a short travel to a PHX crew room to watch Judge Silver or Wake slap Leonidas with a nice fine and report on Twitter. Steve will not hitch a ride in the company van this time.
Karma, she can be a *****, and she hangs in PHX these days.......

 

[Claxon]

SNAPTHIS. Gone. Poof!
Cleardirect, to nowhere.
Nic4us, just not in this lifetime....
Cactusboy53, wandering the desert.
HPEarly retiree? Retired with no benefits.
Aqua green 737? Grieving
Callawaygolf? A lurker now. Nothing to say.
Trader? His homies got humbled. He has no friends now. Not even the APA. A true turncoat.

Mike Cleary? Laughing his a$$ off......

 

[Phoenix]

Really, really good bedtime story:
 
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Fellow America West pilots,

Several weeks ago, Captains John Hale and Bob Johnson, Flight Department leadership from American Airlines, invited AWA First Officer David Braid to meet with them at American Airlines Headquarters in Dallas to discuss a variety of issues facing West pilots. David, taking the invitation very seriously, spent countless hours of his free time researching and preparing a 46-page PowerPoint presentation to present to Captains Hale ....

AWAPPA

 
 
46 page PowerPoint...?  46 pages?    
 
First, PowerPoint is made of "slides" not "pages"..
 
But the real issue...  A 46 slide presentation (to someone of Hales level) is akin to assault and battery.  If Hale actually let them drone through 46 slides then he was extremely gracious....  you can be sure of one thing...
 
Hale's apparent accommodation of that colossal waste of time was the full extent of his gifts.  The West is now deeper in debt, but still think that the. "Nic or nothing" strategy is the best course forward. 😀  

 

[Pi brat]

 
 
46 page PowerPoint...?  46 pages?    
 
First, PowerPoint is made of "slides" not "pages"..
 
But the real issue...  A 46 slide presentation (to someone of Hales level) is akin to assault and battery.  If Hale actually let them drone through 46 slides then he was extremely gracious....  you can be sure of one thing...
 
Hale's apparent accommodation of that colossal waste of time was the full extent of his gifts.  The West is now deeper in debt, but still think that the. "Nic or nothing" strategy is the best course forward. 😀

I heard he mixed his power point presentation with the Larry POTA youtube video and blew his chance to restore PHX to it's right and just position.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I also heard if they did not listen they would send rocks, and poop in the mail and tie up the corporate safety line! Along with another Larry Potta episode!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the UNHIREABLES! Forest Gump said it best! Stupid is as AWAPPA , AOL does!

 

[AWE Dog]

Add another failed savior for the west. Where's that list? A west meltdown, What a Joke. Go ahead meltdown, makes it easier to close.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Are US Airways' Pilots Mushrooms? Where is USAPA's Transparency?
 
Nearly 3 weeks ago on April 28th USAPA held their last BPR conference call (where rank-and-file members could not watch or listen to the meeting) where the Board passed a resolution that authorized a new draft PA to be provided to APA the very next day on April 29th. In addition, USAPA passed a Union Merger Transition Agreement, Global Agreement, and M-B lawsuit settlement proposal that was also sent to APA. Two days later on May 1st USAPA told the pilots that "we do expect a timely response from APA."

But, that's the last the pilots have heard from USAPA. How come?

Did APA respond to USAPA's proposals? Did APA ignore USAPA's proposals? Or was APA and AAG seeking a "Stay" to the M-B lawsuit proceedings along with a Motion to Compel USAPA to honor the pilot's contractual and RLA requirement to arbitrate minor disputes the actual APA BOD response to the BPR's April 28th resolution? 

And, what's the status of the Company scheduling an arbitration on June 15-17, 2014 with Arbitrator Bloch and USAPA ignoring its requirement to arbitrate per the RLA when a grievance has been filed?

Why is USAPA keeping the pilots in the dark? Are US Airways' pilots mushrooms who do not need to know what USAPA and APA may or may not be discussing with so much on the line? What does USAPA not want the pilots to know? 

Where's the open, honest, and transparent communication from this illustrious union whose WWHQs are located on Woodlawn Avenue?

 

[luvthe9]

You are f ing unbelievable. ... im shuttle and just fine with the way it worked out. Lost 9 months.... not 18 years....with NIC2.....you make my blood boil...

Well there you go Traitor, aren't you tired of always being wrong.

 

[luvthe9]

What's really revealing is the way they continued to RUB.... yes, RUB our noses in the FACT that their contract was better than LOA 93..........
 
What did they say about KARMA???

I think they are getting the big picture now, no growth in PHX, AA and US will grow, AWA going nowhere.

 

[luvthe9]

Trader? His homies got humbled. He has no friends now. Not even the APA. A true turncoat.
...

Now that's not true he still has his lover, Chippy.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Are US Airways' Pilots Mushrooms? Where is USAPA's Transparency?
 
Nearly 3 weeks ago on April 28th USAPA held their last BPR conference call (where rank-and-file members could not watch or listen to the meeting) where the Board passed a resolution that authorized a new draft PA to be provided to APA the very next day on April 29th. In addition, USAPA passed a Union Merger Transition Agreement, Global Agreement, and M-B lawsuit settlement proposal that was also sent to APA. Two days later on May 1st USAPA told the pilots that "we do expect a timely response from APA."[/size]But, that's the last the pilots have heard from USAPA. How come?[/size]Did APA respond to USAPA's proposals? Did APA ignore USAPA's proposals? Or was APA and AAG seeking a "Stay" to the M-B lawsuit proceedings along with a Motion to Compel USAPA to honor the pilot's contractual and RLA requirement to arbitrate minor disputes the actual APA BOD response to the BPR's April 28th resolution? [/size]And, what's the status of the Company scheduling an arbitration on June 15-17, 2014 with Arbitrator Bloch and USAPA ignoring its requirement to arbitrate per the RLA when a grievance has been filed?[/size]Why is USAPA keeping the pilots in the dark? Are US Airways' pilots mushrooms who do not need to know what USAPA and APA may or may not be discussing with so much on the line? What does USAPA not want the pilots to know? [/size]Where's the open, honest, and transparent communication from this illustrious union whose WWHQs are located on Woodlawn Avenue?[/size]

Stuff it Chip. Nobody's listening to you.