2014 Pilot Discussion

[Claxon]

Bottom line, the money shot, etc etc.
 
"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012."

 

[USA320Pilot]

USAPA told the pilots on May 1st that "On Tuesday, April 29, the 3 proposed agreements (proposed Protocol Agreement, proposed Merger Transition Agreement and proposed Settlement Agreement) were sent to the APA. APA can either accept our proposals, or modify them and pass back to our Merger Committee for consideration. Should they pass a modified proposal back to us, the BPR would once again have to approve them before acceptance. Since we are in negotiations, we cannot provide any more information at this time on the agreements; however, we do expect a timely response from the APA."

It's been exactly two weeks since UAPA sent their proposed PA, UMTA, GA, and Settlement Agreement (SA) to APA. What happened to the "timely response from the APA" and why has USAPA not provided an update to the pilots on such an important issue? Where is the union's transparency, again?

Demagoguery in action?

 

[Claxon]

Intestinal fortitude is not one of your virtues sir,
 
"Some praised them for having the gumption to stand up to the company's "take it or leave it" proposal, claiming the pilots had already given enough.
 
But Capt. Chip Munn, 49, of Cranberry, who has been based at New York LaGuardia's Airport for three years after 17 years in Pittsburgh, called the actions "morally wrong" and a "dictator approach."
 
"We had a bad feeling about what they were going to do, but we thought they would push it as far as they could to the ledge without falling off," Munn said. "They're denying over 3,000 pilots the right to decide their future."

http://www.post-gazette.com/business/businessnews/2004/09/08/Blocked-vote-on-offer-angers-some-US-Airways-pilots/stories/200409080222

 

[snapthis]

"On May 19, 2005, US Airways Group signed a merger agreement with America West Holdings, pursuant to which America West Holdings agreed to merge with a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways Group. Following the merger, America West Holdings continued as a wholly owned subsidiary of US Airways Group."
 
http://services.corporate-ir.net/SEC.Enhanced/SecCapsule.aspx?c=196799&fid=4046062

That filing was in 2006. The acquisition was in 2005. The anxiety is apparent.

Assessment of Insight and Overvalued Ideation: In Obsessive–Compulsive Disorder

Fugen Neziroglu Ph.D., Jill Slavin Mashaal Ph.D., Lauren Mancusi M.A.

Abstract
"Overvalued ideation is a complicating factor in some cases of obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD). Definitions of overvalued ideas are provided, distinguishing it from obsessions on the one hand to delusions on the other."

 

[Claxon]

That filing was in 2006. The acquisition was in 2005.

The court order was in 2012.
 
"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
 
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012."

 

[snapthis]

The court order was in 2012.
 
"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Courts resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline
Pilots Associations seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.
 
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012."

2014 should bring some welcome changes.

Goodnight.

 

[EastUS1]

 
He really has a sad life, all weekend typing out his maniacal musings.  Another cry for help.

 
 
snapthis: East, most people were enjoying time with their wives and mothers. You, on the other hand, sitting there in your dark little corner quoting yourself because most people have a life so you go at it alone.
 
Masterdebater."
 
 
Sigh!...What is it now kids?..."You'se" don't even like Dusty Springfield? It seems nothing will ever make some people happy. 🙂 Yes, yes, we all know: "Just gimme my nic!...WAAAH!!!" There, there dears...In time, all will be OK. "You'se" will eventually get over the undoubtedly uncomfortable experience of being driven from Fantasyland, and perhaps even yourselves. 😉

 

[A320 Driver]

That filing was in 2006. The acquisition was in 2005. The anxiety is apparent.

 

What acquisition? You mean the merger?

 

[end_of_alpa]

What acquisition? You mean the merger?

No, he means the LEGAL AQUISITION of AWA by US Airways Group who then MERGED AWA airlines and US Airways into one airline. At least that's what Parker and the 10k said.

 

[end_of_alpa]

No, he means the LEGAL AQUISITION of AWA by US Airways Group who then MERGED AWA airlines and US Airways into one airline. At least that's what Parker and the 10k said.

Whoa! One negative for....THE TRUTH. Chip and AOL is back.

 

[Claxon]

Numerous Pireps coming in on west aircraft.
Dirty
Lavatories substandard
Cockpits smell
No chillers for food service
No Auto altitude callouts
No predictive windshear
No automatic route loading, winds etc.
F/O microphone something from Radio Shack
Overall- substandard burned out junk.
If this is all west pilots brought to AA merger, they are hosed.
This IS all west pilots brought.
america west- junk aircraft. Opportunistic pilots.

 

[Claxon]

2014 should bring some welcome changes.
Goodnight.

True statement. You will have welcome changes when you fly east aircraft. Yours? Not so much.

 

[nevergiveup]

Numerous Pireps coming in on west aircraft.
Dirty
Lavatories substandard
Cockpits smell
No chillers for food service
No Auto altitude callouts
No predictive windshear
No automatic route loading, winds etc.
F/O microphone something from Radio Shack
Overall- substandard burned out junk.
If this is all west pilots brought to AA merger, they are hosed.
This IS all west pilots brought.
america west- junk aircraft. Opportunistic pilots.

where's the Adf?

 

[traderjake]

Numerous Pireps coming in on west aircraft.
Dirty
Lavatories substandard
Cockpits smell
No chillers for food service
No Auto altitude callouts
No predictive windshear
No automatic route loading, winds etc.
F/O microphone something from Radio Shack
Overall- substandard burned out junk.

 
Sounds like our 737s.

 

[snapthis]

True statement. You will have welcome changes when you fly east aircraft. Yours? Not so much.

We are starting to get some feedback I'll share with you..,

"Yes indeed. Flew AC 700 bEastie AC in Merican Colors today.
Coffee stained/drenched oxy mask, well lets not even look there,
Not like you'd want to put THAT mask on !
Bring Sani-Com wipes!"

"Just took 151UW from PHL to PHX this am. Had a little stench in it, I guess we'll get used to it..."

"Flew one of their hunks of chit today, very careful preflight. Looked for dents, dings, tail strikes, anything they could try to Pin on us. Be careful out there."