Why I Voted Yes

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I truly understand and partially agree with where you are coming from, not that I am implying how I feel or think matters to you. Although I totally agree with some of what you and others say AA is making it happen in the courts with shedding the debt that they have been able to shed so far with the bang of a gavel and signatures. There have been innuendos typed here of how to express our strength in the future on the line. All that follows, In My Opinion (< that's for you BUCK) if a legal process is geared toward making the company succeed they could show a hardship and basically dismantle the line so to speak and be able to go outside line outsource percentages until they can make it work for them. Unless all three Unions were to stick together 100% and have the same agenda to fight for what is reasonably right for their respective memberships and the memberships were not TOTALLY! fragmented and unsupportive as ours is then I would defiantly stand my ground defiantly but for that to happen we would need a total Miracle.

I'm sure some will wear their digits out explaining why they wouldn't because of the TWU but I would stake a years pay it wouldn't matter what Union we had in place, the culture we have today does not understand or won't grasp the concept of Unity and in my opinion if you don't have that then you have already lost.
Thank You...
 
Still a NO VOTE

In my Opinion you are one of the biggest culprits along with others of destroying Unity. If you were to put 1/10 of your efforts into bringing everyone together and putting your constant bashing etc on hold and use this vast Union knowledge you and the others have so we could show strength and Unity. All you and others like you are good for is fragmenting the pi ss out of anything that could be of any benefit to us and making it unusable. Like I said before if yourself and others would get involved and be proactive, go ahead and have your card drive, your Informational meetings and wear your t-shirts but show others how to put differences aside for a little while and stick together for our future livelyhood.
 
In my Opinion you are one of the biggest culprits along with others of destroying Unity. If you were to put 1/10 of your efforts into bringing everyone together and putting your constant bashing etc on hold and use this vast Union knowledge you and the others have so we could show strength and Unity. All you and others like you are good for is fragmenting the pi ss out of anything that could be of any benefit to us and making it unusable. Like I said before if yourself and others would get involved and be proactive, go ahead and have your card drive, your Informational meetings and wear your t-shirts but show others how to put differences aside for a little while and stick together for our future livelyhood.

Still a NO VOTE!
 
In my Opinion you are one of the biggest culprits along with others of destroying Unity. If you were to put 1/10 of your efforts into bringing everyone together and putting your constant bashing etc on hold and use this vast Union knowledge you and the others have so we could show strength and Unity. All you and others like you are good for is fragmenting the pi ss out of anything that could be of any benefit to us and making it unusable. Like I said before if yourself and others would get involved and be proactive, go ahead and have your card drive, your Informational meetings and wear your t-shirts but show others how to put differences aside for a little while and stick together for our future livelyhood.
Yeah but unity to you is a yes vote he's looking for unity on a no vote why is your unity the right path
 
Yeah but unity to you is a yes vote he's looking for unity on a no vote why is your unity the right path
This is what I am talking about, you obviously didn't understand a single thing I typed. I made no reference to which vote just to standing together with a common agenda.
 
We keep hearing abrogation is coming and terms will be imposed!! Are you kidding? To merge this company a contract is needed not abrogation. The pilots and FA stick together, the company uses fear and lies to get what they want. They tell the people in Tulsa we will close this base if you vote no. They then laugh all the way to the bank. We have the power to force a merger on our terms. We must call the companies bluff. THEY NEED A CONTRACT NOT ABROGATION!!!!!!!! Vote no on this contract and yes on AMFA
 
This is what I am talking about, you obviously didn't understand a single thing I typed. I made no reference to which vote just to standing together with a common agenda.
Hell I'm with ya thanks for coming aboard the no vote unity train glad to have you with us brother
 
You, I give up trying to get my point across to and we did that in two posts. (man your transparent) Your mission is to argue and fragment as I referred to. The only Unity you seem to understand is a No vote when what I am getting at goes so much more in-depth.
 
Unity like the Amfa TWU IBT division, or maybe the yes/no vote or let me see line vs overhaul (bull sheet) or the soon to be osm/ amt unity. Dude our group is so divided its funny I personally don't ever see unity. Some will dream of if but I never see it happening, hell guys on the same dock could never be united
 
Just what I expected from you and you have the gall to consider yourself to be a leadership candidate. So much for your peaceful reflection walk respecting others and all the other lame I'm no hero text you typed.

I respect your opinion, I think it is you that fails to respect mine.
 
Just what I expected from you and you have the gall to consider yourself to be a leadership candidate. So much for your peaceful reflection walk respecting others and all the other lame I'm no hero text you typed.
This is what I am talking about, you obviously didn't understand a single thing I typed. I made no reference to which vote just to standing together with a common agenda.

Maybe you should get more specific if you want someone to understand. All you are doing is attacking individuals and your message is not coming through as a result.

What agenda on this "Why I Voted Yes" thread are you trying to bring forward? Something other than the vote, but the vote is the topic here.

What common agenda do you feel I have the ability to control, advance, or destroy as you claim?
 
You, I give up trying to get my point across to and we did that in two posts. (man your transparent) Your mission is to argue and fragment as I referred to. The only Unity you seem to understand is a No vote when what I am getting at goes so much more in-depth.
AC, it would seem that that you mean well AC, but in the real world there is unity. But it is limited! Reality is all of us, retirees included, are going to take a big hit! Either way! ------ But, what the "No" sayers are saying is that they won't wellingly give up their futures, and the futures of their familys, to a Company wallowing in greed! -------- Oh, we'll all take that hit, either way, that's a given! But, if the No sayers have their way, the Judge will have to take it!!!
 
AC, it would seem that that you mean well AC, but in the real world there is unity. But it is limited! Reality is all of us, retirees included, are going to take a big hit! Either way! ------ But, what the "No" sayers are saying that they won't wellingly give up their futures, and the futures of their familys, to a Company wallowing in greed! -------- Oh, we'll all take a hit, either way, that's a given! But, if the No sayers have their way, the Judge will have to take it!!!
Agreed 100%
 
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