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Vote no demonstration in Tulsa
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AA has plenty of money to buy airplanes and other airlines. They just don't have money for employees/
That's a given! This company treats its employees like crap yet non of us leave!
Mr Red
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Last day 8/13/12 They are leaving all around the system.
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Not quite true. Some have already left the sinking ship to other airlines or repair stations. The rest of those who want to leave are just waiting on the Early Out.
High Speed Steel
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pitbull, below is just a sample of the education I would have offered you for your 4 hour trip to Tulsa.....
Perhaps you need to go and take a long look at the companies March 22nd term sheets "they will impose" with a "no vote". What you are complaining about will be gone anyway also within the March 22nd term sheet is a statement reguarding concensual agreement must be met, and if not, anything with an (*) will not apply. That means there would be no raises, no profit sharing, no Early Out, Pension turned over to the PBGC etc,etc,etc...
What the TA offers is raises, gain sharing plan for Line and Base employees, 36 month wage average adjustment, 48 month early section 6 opener to re-negotiate (we would still get raises as they re-negotiate), profit sharing, a Frozen Pension, matching 401k, Early Out etc,etc,etc...
I will be voting for the TA and I suggest you do the same. If you decide you can't live with it after the fact you can take the Early Out or the Stand In Stead that offer's over $39,500.00, you as well would recieve your prefunding contribution plus interest and if there is a successful Section 1114 filing through the bankruptcy you would get the companies prefunding portion too. This would probably place you near $50,000.00 to sever your ties, and walk away.
Then you could take your skills elswhere to a company who you think would treat you better.....Just my thoughts
High Speed Steel
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Oldguy, I have to give you credit. It looks like you recognize the seriousness of what we are facing here in bankruptcy and the safest avenue to secure our pension as members is to vote for the TA and secure the freeze....
TWU informer
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FEAR!!!
Mr Red
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I look at it a little differently,They can keep their measly
40,000.I will be able to hold my head up at my new employment knowing I did'nt F the people that have to stay here for whatever reason ,and the AMTs in negotiations at other Airlines VOTE NO !
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Ken MacTiernan
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Wasn't it hss or one of his imaginary friends that posted something about don v. relly giving it to Gary Peterson?
Ha! Gary's rebuttal calls don v. to task. Let's see don v. spin the FACT that he doesn't have to live under the concessions he is urging we vote yes on.
Nice second letter Gary! Being accountable to the membership that elected him into office is something definitely lost on international appointed officers.
VOTE NO!
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Voting yes will not secure the freeze. AA has said they will not guarantee the pension will stay frozen with a yes vote. Seeing that they have gone out of their way to screw the employees up to date, there is no reason to believe that they won't get agreements and then dump the pensions. You keep taking half of the statement to prove your point. Read the offer and read the statements from corporate AA.
