US/UA Merger Master Thread

[US1YFARE]

this is about a potential merger between two f'd up airlines.

Sometimes two f'd up things do make a right...or at least some fun...let's at least hope so...

 

[FlyUs]

Yes I do expect it since it has been advertised as part of the product (in the past.)

$120.00 a Barrel cost is not an excuse for running a poor operation.

At my hotel of choice ( Hilton Garden Inn) I still expect that there will be shampoo in the bathroom for me.

And before you talk about not paying for it. The hotel gives me 2 bottles of water and a snack at check in. Cookies every night, and a breakfast cooked to order. All included in my room rate. This is part of policy and with my status.

While fuel (energy costs) are a lower percent of the hotel's operating coat, it still part of the cost and they are adjusting.

My rate for the first week of April was $109.00/night and has gone up every week and will be $259.00 per night the last week of May.

This is mostly due to tourist season, the point is, they are adjusting the pricing and not cutting services to their best customers.

USAirways(East) hasn't had glassware in domestic FC since before 911.. Last year they were studying it but decided against it. If you consider that running a poor operation then so be it.

 

[Save708AW]

Being a t3 remembering awa days person from Phx, it saddens me to know that ua has become a better carrier to fly than us. We used to be such a great carrier and now what may be considered perks on ua used to be standard service items on awa. Only thing left now is the addition of vending machines in the galleys. What happened to our great airline. What happened to our industry? Only thing we have left to offer is service. We suck at that too. I sometimes prefer id90 on other carriers in lieu of flying my own for free, how do you think paying passengers feel?

 

[Singleflyer]

USAirways(East) hasn't had glassware in domestic FC since before 911.. Last year they were studying it but decided against it. If you consider that running a poor operation then so be it.

You are correct that US (East) has not had glassware for quite some time. However, they did more than study the issue. The told customers that it would be back on the plane. Those promises never happened.

Also glassware was just one of any examples of items they are discontinuing due to high fuel prices. While I'll agree that is a problem since it is the airlines largest cost, I just get tired of hearing it to justify decisions to cut costs. They need to look at the revenue side harder.

You can only cut so much before the customer stops returning. In April alone US lost over $7,500.00 in revenue from me alone because of their cheapening (word?) of their product.

Hopefully by merging and cutting "backroom" expenses will allow a better customer experience while on board.

 

[safety stud]

PIT dwindled as part of the old US in BK that was on the brink of liquidation. Most of the cuts in PIT were made from the previous management and not the HP/US merger.

That statement is the most ludicris statement I have ever heard. And judgeing from your name you probably work for AFA in PHX. Yes management downsized PIT after 9/11. Increased time in other bases, and structured a schedule out of PIT that wasn't nearly as big as it's hay day. However, the elimination of the PIT base was entirely the decision of DP.

Wether to show he had some sort of muscle, an ego trip, or whatever. He and He alone is the reason PIT no longer exists as a base. I have said it before and I will say it again. You can market anything and any place in business if you so desire. Not doing anything is what DP did. PHX is the base if you look at the big picture, that isn't making money for the company. Don't think for one second the management at UAL isn't looking at this and will make a determination as to what will happen to that base.

You can't put the blame on bad decisions, on anyone else other than the ones that are making them.

Just my opinion...

 

[DesertFA66]

That statement is the most ludicris statement I have ever heard. And judgeing from your name you probably work for AFA in PHX. Yes management downsized PIT after 9/11. Increased time in other bases, and structured a schedule out of PIT that wasn't nearly as big as it's hay day. However, the elimination of the PIT base was entirely the decision of DP.

You can't put the blame on bad decisions, on anyone else other than the ones that are making them.

Just my opinion...

:angry: my post didn't mention anything about "closed PIT", the post was describing the slow downsizing of PIT as a hub. Chill

 

[FM2436]

United/US Airways HQ expected to remain in Chicago with Parker in charge.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Stor...p;siteid=yhoof2

 

[Travelpro72]

Get ready to brace for impact. Never think for a second that a city you reside in is safe. NOTHING is safe in the airline world. Good luck to us all.

 

[gaucho99]

United/US Airways HQ expected to remain in Chicago with Parker in charge.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Stor...p;siteid=yhoof2

This article is just quoting the Chicago Tribune article that came out Saturday. It seems like this pending announcement has been dragging on for some time now. That would indicate to me that there are some key points the sides have been unable to agree on. Any thoughts on what those might be?

 

[cynic]

United/US Airways HQ expected to remain in Chicago with Parker in charge.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Stor...p;siteid=yhoof2

Isn't that what everyone was expecting?
Tilton cashes in, Parker is in charge, we're all called United and HQ is in Chicago

 

[Geek]

Isn't that what everyone was expecting?
Tilton cashes in, Parker is in charge, we're all called United and HQ is in Chicago

The only place saying the HQ will be in Chicago is the Chicago Tribune. Of course they would say that.
I am not saying it won't be, but I wouldn't be so quick to say it will.
I know there were big reasons why it stayed in PHX before and if CP is in charge those reasons are still valid.
So we will see.
Geek

 

[gaucho99]

The only place saying the HQ will be in Chicago is the Chicago Tribune. Of course they would say that.
I am not saying it won't be, but I wouldn't be so quick to say it will.
I know there were big reasons why it stayed in PHX before and if CP is in charge those reasons are still valid.
So we will see.
Geek

I would love for a UA-US merged airline to be based in PHX and I'm not sure why it couldn't be. You could still keep ord as your biggest hub but there is no reason your corporate offices have to be based in the city where you have the most flights. Phx has a lot of advantages such as weather, costs, growing economy and most important, better sports teams.

 

[Whatnow?]

The only place saying the HQ will be in Chicago is the Chicago Tribune. Of course they would say that.
I am not saying it won't be, but I wouldn't be so quick to say it will.
I know there were big reasons why it stayed in PHX before and if CP is in charge those reasons are still valid.
So we will see.
Geek

You could be right....but...I think the only reason that the "current" HQ are in Tempe is because at the time of this last merger, it was decided that DP and the AWA Team would run the "new" USAirways. IMO, I've always thought that it wasn't the smartest idea to keep the HQ soo far away from the bulk of the operation which is on the East Coast. And even with this possible UAL merger it STILL makes NO SENSE to keep the HQ in Tempe with the the large East presence UAL also has. But only time will tell, get ready for another roller coaster ride! Suprises and heartaches around every turn, having been through almost 4 mergers with US, you find out that ANYTHING is possible and it's not always what you'd expect to happen! The only thing "CONSISTENT" about working in the Airline Industry is "CHANGE".

 

[JayBrian]

Didn't UAL recently relocate its headquarters in the Chicago area? Maybe from the burbs to the city. It is possible that because of previous incentives given to UAL to stay in the area there might be a significant penalty to move.

 

[Travelpro72]

The HQ for United is now downtown yes. Couple that with the fact that they still have all their training and dorm facilities in Elk Grove. It's a massive operation really. I just don't see it being in PHX. I mean in comparison have you seen the size of DL's megaplex? The majority of the operation is Midwest to heavy east coast. Not to mention everything in PHX is a few hours behind. Overall the size of the airline and ORD I just don't see it being housed in that little building in PHX. You need your HQ where the majority of your business is to stay more "in touch".