US Pilots Labor Discussion 4/6- STAY ON TOPIC AND OBSERVE THE RULES

[BoeingBoy]

Who knows where this thing is going?

Like I said, I haven't kept up the the retiree's suit, but the company was dropped as a defendant in the MDA suit - only ALPA now so it's an "internal union dispute" just as much as the DFR is. What it amounts to is that an "internal union dispute" can and does rightfully end up in court.

Since the PBGC didn't get enough money to pay everyone what they should have gotten - that's why PC4's and beyond get only the maximum specified by law - I don't think they were licking their chops over any excess funds...but keep the conspiracy theories alive if that floats your boat. They're good for a laugh.

Jim

 

[CallawayGolf]

Thank you HP Driver, Calloway, Nic4US, Cactusboy53, Freebird, Onebadcat, and all too numerous to mention. Thank you from ALL of us on the East side. Thank you for the maintenance of LOA 93 wages, and the NIC. You have singlehandedly staved off the chance of the UAL merger. Had it not been for you hanging it all out there for so long, Doug might have actually been able to pull this one off. Not now. And that is a really good thing. Looking forward to the 9th, and the LOA 93 grievance. With a little luck, you are going to really going to see that yes, we did go through some really bad times, but we had some really decent provisions lurking in that LOA that are going to shine!

Total disconnection from reality.

 

[TheBadCat1313]

Total disconnection from reality.

BS,

I see you believe the old line that the best defense is a good offense. That's ok. We're patient. And smart. And well-funded. And we have the law on our side.

BadCat

 

[CallawayGolf]

BS,

I see you believe the old line that the best defense is a good offense. That's ok. We're patient. And smart. And well-funded. And we have the law on our side.

BadCat

Which law would that be?

 

[TheBadCat1313]

Calloway,

I was responding to BS and quoted you by mistake. Sorry.

BadCat

 

[Reed Richards]

A new three-way Transition Agreement.

The fact is there will be no merger activity without that occurring. No time to consummate the original T/A, no matter what the ruling in the 9th.

The East protections reside in LOA 93 and its Scope language. The West’s only few protections are hanging on by a thread in the current T/A.

Parker just telegraphed the West the price of admission to any new activities. I am going to refer to it from now on as……

“the 24% solution.”

How about that Phil today..2 Eagles and a Birdie (that was nearly an Eagle) in a row. Wow.

RR

 

[Metroyet]

A new three-way Transition Agreement.

The fact is there will be no merger activity without that occurring. No time to consummate the original T/A, no matter what the ruling in the 9th.

The East protections reside in LOA 93 and its Scope language. The West’s only few protections are hanging on by a thread in the current T/A.

Parker just telegraphed the West the price of admission to any new activities. I am going to refer to it from now on as……

“the 24% solution.”

How about that Phil today..2 Eagles and a Birdie (that was nearly an Eagle) in a row. Wow.

RR

As long as USAPA is the CBA, the Permanent Injunction is controlling. Also, ALPA is 100% behind the Nic. No amount of cryptic, wishful projection will change reality. DAL/NWA followed the SAME protocol so that just lends more credibility to the Nic. Again, I will point out, that TO THIS VERY DAY USAPA has ignored publiclly mentioning a solitary word about DAL/NWA. Kinda hard to sweep that under the rug don't you think? Only the criminally arrogant leadership of this fake union thinks it's membership is too stupid to notice their ham handed behavior and decipher the ulterior motives.

Fact. The East pilots, despite their tantrums, were not robbed of anything. "Joe on the Street" via a Jury of 9 Peers confirms this.

 

[aquagreen73s]

A new three-way Transition Agreement.
RR

There is only one pilot group on the LCC side: just ask the NMB. Thanks USAPA.

CLT Observer: fired

Old US Airways: fired.

Masquerading as a journalist: check.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Well, you could have a three-way transition agreement. It would just leave out anything about seniority integration between East and West since that's settled (pending the 9th).

Jim

 

[Ames]

BS,

I see you believe the old line that the best defense is a good offense. That's ok. We're patient. And smart. And well-funded. And we have the law on our side.

BadCat

Is it the same law that produced the Addington verdict and the same law that denied, with prejiduce, the Cactus 18 suit? The same law you are currently appealing? Or is it the law in the eastie version of reality? You know, the one where everything goes your way?

 

[Reed Richards]

Well, you could have a three-way transition agreement. It would just leave out anything about seniority integration between East and West since that's settled (pending the 9th).

Jim

Jim, how does any ruling from the Ninth "settle" the seniority integration?

Seniority will only be settled one way, with a vote by the member pilots. That vote can occur at any time, even now.

But it has not.

RR

 

[Reed Richards]

Is it the same law that produced the Addington verdict and the same law that denied, with prejiduce, the Cactus 18 suit? The same law you are currently appealing? Or is it the law in the eastie version of reality? You know, the one where everything goes your way?

The Cactus 18 RICO Suite was a big loss for USAPA. Dues and Fees from both East and West pilots had to be expended in order to stop some reprehensible behavior. The behavior stopped, but the bills did not. What a terrible loss for us all.

At least that whole affair is over, you know "dismissed with prejudice." It is my understanding the entire thing is settled and done. Thank goodness for that.

USAPA pilots will never recover those lost funds, but at least the Cactus 18 are now off the hook. so to speak. Life is good.

RR

 

[cynic]

Well, you could have a three-way transition agreement. It would just leave out anything about seniority integration between East and West since that's settled (pending the 9th).

Jim

Who would have the authority to sign for the west?

 

[hp_fa]

At least that whole affair is over, you know "dismissed with prejudice." It is my understanding the entire thing is settled and done. Thank goodness for that.

Reed, I may be wrong but I think USAPA's appeal of the dismissal is still pending. Like I said, I could be wrong.

 

[HPDriver]

There is only one pilot group on the LCC side: just ask the NMB. Thanks USAPA.

CLT Observer: fired

Old US Airways: fired.

Masquerading as a journalist: check.

You forgot to add:

Member - USAPA Communications Committee