ChockJockey
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BAGGAE HANDLER AND PROUD …
Yeah, no kidding. That's why these posters suck: people that take pride in their job and do it well shouldn't be depicted as buffoons or instructed like children.
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Yeah, no kidding. That's why these posters suck: people that take pride in their job and do it well shouldn't be depicted as buffoons or instructed like children.
28L_or_10R?
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I Am of course just kidding , I don’t feel insulted by the posters because I’ve long since stopped feeling ashamed of being a baggage handler , in fact these days I tell people what I do with pride , and I make sure to emphasize BAGGAE HANDLER . .. The world has changed , and I’ve changed with it …
BAGGAE HANDLER AND PROUD …
What is a baggae handler?
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freedom
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Could i use microsoft word to spell check what i write before i post it ? i could . Am i going to ? i'm not ... let's face it , we all know i'm lazy when it comes to details ... as long as you can understand what i'm trying to convey that's good enough for me ..
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Obviously you didn't read the Ethics book the company sent you. If you've given it any thought then you would possibbly see that they are portaying you exactly how you shouldn't portray other co-workers.
Is the company making fun of you? I don't know, but some might think so! Do they value you enough to characterize you as a cartoon character....OBVIOUSLY
freedom
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i thought the cartoons were effective because they got everyones attention .... i don't know how it is in your station but here in PHX the company posts a TON of stuff on the walls .. updates , damage reports so on and so forth ... people stop paying attention after awhile ....
i have trouble understanding how someone can look at the cartoon pictures and get their feelings hurt .... it's obvious to me that the company was trying to draw attention to saftey in a massive way ... and i'm pretty sure they don't think we're a bunch of retards , otherwise they would post EVERYTHING in cartoon form ...
i stopped and looked at the posters , then i checked out the one where the cartoon guy was doing all the unsafe things such as driving behind jet blast etc ... so if their intent was to make my mind revist unsafe procedures it worked , and it didn't just work on me but from some of the other posts on here dealing with the issue it also worked ... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ...
mike33
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.. so if their intent was to make my mind revist unsafe procedures it worked , and it didn't just work on me but from some of the other posts on here dealing with the issue it also worked ... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED ...
I didn't read any posts that agreed with you?
freedom
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my point was the posters have raised saftey awarness ... that we are even bothering to talk and or complain about it is testmate to that fact ...
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It is impossible to judge the effectiveness of the program without looking at numbers six weeks out or six months out, and seeing change.
28L_or_10R?
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I aim this question mostly at freedom: Why are there no posters from management in the pilot groups depicting drunken pilots? Do posters in flight attendant break rooms show fa's as big-breasted hussies? Are mechanics depicted as big, hairy apes holding a wrench like a weapon? No. Why? Those groups wouldn't stand for it. Why is it perfectly okee-dokee to depict a fleet service agent as a fat, unkempt goon?
You know at my new (all-east) station, our managers get these types of things and they chuck them in the rubbish bin. Why? Because they know that they will cause hard feelings and they are insulting to our workgroup. That is the difference between east management vs west management. East uses their judgment to keep from creating a negative stir. West managers love to stir it up and stir it they do! I bet JF and his boy of the week put those posters up knowing full well that they were insulting. They were probably hiding behind the filing cabinets and snickering while fleet took offense.
You know at my new (all-east) station, our managers get these types of things and they chuck them in the rubbish bin. Why? Because they know that they will cause hard feelings and they are insulting to our workgroup. That is the difference between east management vs west management. East uses their judgment to keep from creating a negative stir. West managers love to stir it up and stir it they do! I bet JF and his boy of the week put those posters up knowing full well that they were insulting. They were probably hiding behind the filing cabinets and snickering while fleet took offense.
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I can see what your getting at about the pilots and flight attendants not being subject to childish promotions from the company …
While it doesn’t bother me , I guess I can see how some could look at it and take offense .. . In fact if I was still in my old state of mind where I didn’t feel as proud as I do today about what I do ,I think I would find it offensive ..
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As we progress into this transition of “West meets Eastâ€... regardless of the Work Group... this melding never ceases to amaze me. Apparently, we will forever be faced with denial, and intent to divide from certain posters on here. Get over it...there is no longer a West vs. East!
Let me make this clear... we are one Work Group... under one contract... and we observe the same Corporate Safety Policies...period! Any other banter on here is Bull****!
Safety should never be conveyed by a cartoon! Lives have been lost in this industry!
Having humorous illustrations to convey a corporate message regarding something as serious as safety to a work group such as Fleet Service is a complete travesty.
First the message is condescending... secondly it suggests that the Company is not taking Safety seriously!
West, get used to it... it’s a done deal... meet the new boss... ain’t the same as the old boss...
ChockJockey
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This is largely due to our proximity to corporate; management here is under constant pressure to keep the pet hub operating as they think it should.
It is true (IMO) that our least-effective and least-respected managers are homegrown. It's fun to criticize them.
I'd imagine they probably thought of them as goofy and stupid like the rest of us, if they cared to think of them at all; but who knows. A few of the posters have been defaced and taken down.
Last time I saw JF he was driving the safety pickup on the ramp while talking on his cell phone...yes, I think PHX could use a much more dynamic safety coordinator.
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