Put up or shut up Gonzo.
You made an accusation now be a man and back it up or retract it.
I am calling you out.
Like you retracted your statment be a man
7 step up and tell everyone how you where WRONG
ANSWER the question
QUOTE(700UW @ Oct 22 2005, 09:44 AM)
We gain Scope, Heavy mtc and gaurantees, and we keep our seniority, also our pay will surpase yours as we have gauranted raises over the life of the contract and your no raises in yours till you ever get a new one.
QUOTE(Bird Doctor @ Oct 22 2005)
YOU MAKE THIS TO EASY
I dont see how you passed the third grade? I'm toped out at $23.35 + $2.00 for lic. + .35 shift pay = $25.70 OH I work in the hanger just so numbers are the same. Just a wrench. IAM top out $22.77 + $1.00 for lic. + .00 shift pay =23.77 with your whooping 1% 2006,1% 2007, 2%2008, 2% 2009 That is $24.00/06 and $24.25/07 and $24.73/08 and $25.22/09 That is good math in 4 years you will still be .55 cents behind what I'm making NOW
That is $3536.00 less in 06, $3016.00i n 07, $2018.00 in 08, and $999.00 in 09 ==TOTAL OF $9569.00
Would you like to retrack your statement about PAY???
QUOTE(700UW @ Oct 22 2005, 09:44 AM)
We have a matching 401K, sorry to let the facts get in the way of your rant.
Right again you do get a 2% match not like our 6%. How silly of me to think that 6 is more than 2.
So lets see going with the IBT you loss WHAT?
Gain Pay , Vac, Sick pay, 401k,etc etc etc...
Staying with the IAM what do you gain?
MAKE YOUR POINT
ANSWER the question
Read your agreement
No the pension termination was not voted on, it was done by Judge Mitchell prior to any contract vote.
We have a 401k with a company match and a company defined contribution plan still. And the terminated pension was taken over by the PBGC and the current and future retirees who particpated in the plan will still get benefits, which will be reduced.
What kind of retirement do you get at HP if you don't participate in the 401k?
Better check your facts.
So how many HP mechs perform overhaul?
Are they working at Timco in Macon, GA or Aeroman in San Salvador, El Salvador?
LIE again your contract was voted on and signed Jan. 31 2005 your RETIREMENT PLAN was deleted from your contract on APR 12 2005
RETRACT YOUR LIES :unsure: