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700UW said:BoeingBoy? BoeingBoy?
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PITbull said:If the company refuses to work out an acceptable agreement for the IAM members, then that means the company is willing to take the risks associated with not negotiating in "good faith". That goes for AFA as well.
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700UW said:So this is the SMALLEST group of workers on the property, I wonder what 821 Utility cost VS 800 Pilots?
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N628AU said:The other jobs are directly tied to who flies that metal with the US livery. All those Express carriers you mentioned? Who works them in the biggest hub in the system? It is not US. They are not unionized. They seem to be on the whole, much happier than their counterparts upstairs on Concourses B, C, and D. They don't have complicated work rules over who loads a bag in the bin and who dumps the lav or washes the windscreen. They can move freely between checking passengers and loading bags if necessary. No worry about greivances, infighting, or pulling the knife from one's back. Go to work, put your 8 hours in, and get your paycheck every other week.
So let me ask you this, if they outsource the jobs of 800 more pilots, wet lease aircraft, or have someone like Ryan come in to fly routes, what work would there be for your precious 821 utility workers?
As a side note, the Air Tran move with Ryan was a smart one from a business perspective. It allowed Air Tran to move into market on a temporary basis until it had the aircraft to do so itself. It never planned on it being permanent. US tried this several years ago with UA and AA flying a codeshare into Japan until US had the metal to enter the Pacific market. Maybe if the wise men at ALPA were not so ardent against things like that the US picture would be different today? Maybe not, who knows.
Also, can you tell me which airline in the US has hired more people and constantly seems to grow at a much higher rate than anyone else, including WN?
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USA320Pilot said:PitBull:
The company has offered all of its unions market rate contracts, which will be obtained by negotiation or imposition.
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N628AU said:Wrong question. The proper question is how necessary and productive are 821 utility vs. 800 pilots? You can farm out the utility work to a subcontractor and merge some of the job duties into other workgroups. You cannot realistically do that with the pilot group.
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