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[hp_fa]

Travelpro, her husband has been a USAPA BPR rep. I know that he is, or has recently resigned from that post, but at the time in question he was a BPR rep. So, how do you potentially draw evil from the fact that she may have shared that USAPA information from a BPR rep?

(I'm not picking on you, but that issue had bounced around my skull for the past few days and that, by itself, is not a damning issue to me.)

 

[Travelpro72]

Understood. I will keep it simple in saying they stole documents and I don't trust them. How can they face each other and honestly get a contract banged out now? Damage is done and this issue is spreading like fire.

 

[flybynite]

The same thing has rattled around in my head too. Her husband probably had the USAPA proposal anyway. So "sharing" it with her husband makes no sense.

I can only assume they took and copied them because they were told "no". That and they get some kind of perverse pleasure in being a sneak.

 

[theFLYonthewall]

Does not matter where you stand you all know it's wrong. The bigger picture is about flight pay loss for $ 3,500 dollars Lynn C and Rob W just do not want to work . Rob for one is nothing but a slug I am so disappointed with Lynn but that's how it is these IDIOTS led by Ann holy Crowly want to oust M F and put in there THIEF Liza get it together. I for one will go to the NLRB and Dept of Labor.

The best thing that could happen would be this company to close BOS and LGA and put those two lame brains back on the line. Gee wonder how long it would take for them to take a VFLR or VPLOA because God forbid they actually work.

 

[Furloughd4now]

The best thing that could happen would be this company to close BOS and LGA and put those two lame brains back on the line. Gee wonder how long it would take for them to take a VFLR or VPLOA because God forbid they actually work.

What about the folks in LGA/BOS that DO want to work and live IN base??? So we'll close TWO bases with several Hundred people in each to get TWO people to work the line??? Such a nice thing to hear. Obviously, you do not work in either base :down: :down: :down:

Economy is in the tank to begin with. U just posted 600 MORE layoffs and you want to propose more??? Nice! :angry:

 

[flybynite]

Does not matter where you stand you all know it's wrong. The bigger picture is about flight pay loss for $ 3,500 dollars Lynn C and Rob W just do not want to work . Rob for one is nothing but a slug I am so disappointed with Lynn but that's how it is these IDIOTS led by Ann holy Crowly want to oust M F and put in there THIEF Liza get it together. I for one will go to the NLRB and Dept of Labor.

I agree it's wrong and at the very least rude and childish.

But I really don't get what you're saying about flight pay loss. I guess I'm missing something. And I don't know why you think Ann wants to oust Mike. Where did you get that little jewel of information. Or maybe misinformation. Is that some kind of rumor? I just don't see it nor have I heard such a thing. Your info may be tainted.

At this point I can't see anyone promoting Lisa to the MEC. That may have been a pipe dream. In her mind.

 

[beachboy]

If I may step in here. (like I needed an invite) Made no sense to me either but when I started putting the motives together with past issues, it all came together. Lynn, Annie and Rob all share this hate of Mike Flores and McCorkle. See BOS/LGA are small bases and they don't like to fly to make up the time. They expect and are used to 85 hours Flight Pay Loss out of the budget. PHL has more issues than carter has liver pills and gets 105 period. Over the years as headcounts shift the time has been reallocated to fit the base size. Well they must know something because when the MEC East/West are put together there is a new vote on the MEC Officers to represent us all. From what I understand and makes perfect sense Annie, Lynn and Rob have made a deal of some sort or understanding with Lisa out West that she will get the vote for MEC President but she will use her roll call as LEC to make sure their pay is protected. Get it? Annie just does it to get at Mike and John. Meanwhile we spin out of control as they play games. Trust me as soon as I sit here there is some going on with this. Put the puzzle together....your smart.

 

[Travelpro72]

What beachboy just said is what I was getting at a few posts earlier. C'mon people....think about it. It's not the magic bullet theory. It's pretty accurate. 😉

 

[HP_JACK]

Lisa as MEC Pres over a combined group.... :down: :down: :down: :down:

 

[cactusflyer]

What the east needs to know is Lisa isn't even really running the show. I help out by answering phones in the office. It pays just to see and hear what is actually going on. Lisa doesn't make a move without calling her friend Deb. I don't know anyone that would have a problem with a sitting president calling a past president, but Lisa only calls Deb because she said she has Debra in her "hip pocket" and will believes her no matter what. She really should close her office door when she talks on the phone! She said shes got her on speed dial and that Debra knows how to "play this game" and she will win. Nice to know she thinks this is a game. I wasn't here in Deb's day but I understand she was recalled when she was the big cheese in charge. Now these rumors make sense because Lisa would not have been able to establish this alliance without the help of this Debra. Maybe if Debra wants to be president again she should run instead of using Lisa like a puppet. They are in meeting this week with Mike and Carol. Wonder how that is going? :blink:


The entire west MEC/LEC needs to be voted off the island!

 

[Zarah]

Both sides had hearsay. The board decided to find Jeff guilty because neither side had any proof of exactly what happened that day, so they went with "well, Mike usually puts his papers in the bag." Not exactly proof beyond a reasonable doubt. So unless you actually know Jeff, that's a pretty high and mighty, not to mention presumptuous thing to say.

"Albers insists that he would copy the proposal again for the "best interests" of the West flight attendants. LeCarre also failed to acknowledge any wrongdoing and told the Board that she would do it again since she believes the East members of the JNT would have done the same thing if they had been in their position."

***bold added by me.

 

[flybynite]

Wow...you're exposing yourself a little bit. Be careful.

If she needs advice from a former president, thats okay by me. But it's not my local. That's for you to decide. If you don't like it then maybe you should do something about it. All it tells me is she isn't confident about her job on a local level. But then again it may mean nothing.

Yet from what you are saying is Lisa thinks this is a game. Well, it's not. I am not a political animal and I can not think that way. I am for the team (afa) come hell or high water. Multi base or not. And she isn't being a team player. It sounds like she's trying to be a "hot dog" as they say in the ACC. And they always lose.

The meeting with Mike and Carol will shake her to her boots. She is out of her depths and she knows it.

 

[SSDA]

cactus, if what you say is true, then you might be breaking a confidentiality agreement signed by those who work in the office. what's the ethics argument there? And oh wow, the stuff you say doesn't even sound like Lisa, so I find it hard to believe. And how come you are moooooore than happy to inform everyone he on this, somewhat East populated, forum, but with such seemingly important info from the west forum. You know, where people actually have a say in the recall?


To others: Out of curiosity, why do the other bases "hate" Mike Flores? I find it hard to believe that it is all because he is in a larger base, hence gets paid to not fly? Someone, please explain?

 

[Travelpro72]

Pitbull are you reading all of this? As sure as the day is long I KNOW you are. Can you just imagine what Teddy would be like if it were HER who discovered her private documents were taken and copied? Can you imagine her interaction with AFA International after this outcome? God on a wheel she'd be HELL'S fire. Oh my goodness.

 

[hp_fa]

However Pitbull reportedly doesn't send holiday best wishes to Mike Flores, especially after the stuff he reportedly pulled while Teddy was MEC president for AFA's US Airways chapter.