TWU-IAM Finally Getting Ready for JCBA Negotiations

[TWU informer]

700, forgive me for not having time to read the entire dabble you have attached.  Does this mean the association is a done deal?  Or does this mean it is going to the members for a vote?  Sorry didn't have time to read thru it all...

 
The way I read it any intervener has 30 days to submit cards showing 50% plus one interest. This means there will be a vote in my opinion.
 
Planners and Simulator Techs and Engineers are now part of the Mechanic and Related Craft or Class at the new AA.

 

[700UW]

From how I read it, and I might not be right, both AA and US are now a single carrier, groups at AA that werent unionized but unionized at US are now unionized at the new AA.
 
It also says the next part is the association, and intervening parties  have 30 days to file 50% +1.
 
It doesnt mention anything about a vote.

 

[TWU informer]

From how I read it, and I might not be right, both AA and US are now a single carrier, groups at AA that werent unionized but unionized at US are now unionized at the new AA.
 
It also says the next part is the association, and intervening parties  have 30 days to file 50% +1.
 
It doesnt mention anything about a vote.

 
Why not vote? I never signed a card showing interest in any association. And neither did any other employee that I know of...period.

 

[CMH_GSE]

Why not vote? I never signed a card showing interest in any association. And neither did any other employee that I know of...period.

700 is right, in that, it says nothing about a vote.
It also doesn't say there Won't be a vote.

If enough cards are submitted , there will be a vote.

 

[Buck]

The NMB gave the 30 days, why so fast?

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Accordingly, the applications filed by TWU and IAM in NMB File No. CR- 7131 are converted to NMB Case No. R-7422 (Mechanics and Related Employees/Airline Mechanic and Related Employees Association TWU/IAM); NMB Case No. R-7423 (Fleet Service Employees/Airline Fleet Service Employee Association TWU/IAM); and NMB Case No. R-7424 (Stock and Stores Employees/ Airline Stores Employees Association TWU/IAM). Pursuant to Manual Section 19.6, the investigation will proceed to address the representation of these crafts or classes. Any Intervenor has 30 days from the date of this determination to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50 percent of the single transportation system in accordance with Manual Sections 19.601 and 19.603. The participants are reminded that under Manual Section 19.7, existing certifications remain in effect until the Board issues a new certification or dismissal.

I'm no attorney but it looks like the case for the Associations have been converted to new cases which will be investigated and these will address representation and after these have been determined an intervenor will have the 30 days..These may take another six months or more..

Does anybody agree? Comments?

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Accordingly, the applications filed by TWU and IAM in NMB File No. CR- 7131 are converted to NMB Case No. R-7422 (Mechanics and Related Employees/Airline Mechanic and Related Employees Association TWU/IAM); NMB Case No. R-7423 (Fleet Service Employees/Airline Fleet Service Employee Association TWU/IAM); and NMB Case No. R-7424 (Stock and Stores Employees/ Airline Stores Employees Association TWU/IAM). Pursuant to Manual Section 19.6, the investigation will proceed to address the representation of these crafts or classes. Any Intervenor has 30 days from the date of this determination to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50 percent of the single transportation system in accordance with Manual Sections 19.601 and 19.603. The participants are reminded that under Manual Section 19.7, existing certifications remain in effect until the Board issues a new certification or dismissal.

I'm no attorney but it looks like the case for the Associations have been converted to new cases which will be investigated and these will address representation and after these have been determined an intervenor will have the 30 days..These may take another six months or more..

Does anybody agree? Comments?

 
Disagree - its clearly stated
 
Any Intervenor has 30 days from the date of this determination to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50 percent of the single transportation system in accordance with Manual Sections 19.601 and 19.603.
 
As of today your clock is ticking

 

[Buck]

Accordingly, the applications filed by TWU and IAM in NMB File No. CR- 7131 are converted to NMB Case No. R-7422 (Mechanics and Related Employees/Airline Mechanic and Related Employees Association TWU/IAM); NMB Case No. R-7423 (Fleet Service Employees/Airline Fleet Service Employee Association TWU/IAM); and NMB Case No. R-7424 (Stock and Stores Employees/ Airline Stores Employees Association TWU/IAM). Pursuant to Manual Section 19.6, the investigation will proceed to address the representation of these crafts or classes. Any Intervenor has 30 days from the date of this determination to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50 percent of the single transportation system in accordance with Manual Sections 19.601 and 19.603. The participants are reminded that under Manual Section 19.7, existing certifications remain in effect until the Board issues a new certification or dismissal.

I'm no attorney but it looks like the case for the Associations have been converted to new cases which will be investigated and these will address representation and after these have been determined an intervenor will have the 30 days..These may take another six months or more..

Does anybody agree? Comments?

In part, how can you conduct business as the Association if that association does not yet exist?  ( I think it was TWU Informer that ask this) 

 

[2ndGENAMT]

The way I read it there are three new cases to be investigated. I could be wrong!

And this from the announcement

.Todays determination is a necessary precursor to certifying the TWU-IAM Association, an alliance formed by both unions after the merger of American Airlines and US Airways, as the collective bargaining representative for the above employees at the merged carrier.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

In part, how can you conduct business as the Association if that association does not yet exist?  ( I think it was TWU Informer that ask this) 

I doubt you will see AA across the table until they determine who they are dealing with!

Minimum of 6 Months!

 

[Buck]

The way I read it there are three new cases to be investigated. I could be wrong!

And this from the announcement

.Todays determination is a necessary precursor to certifying the TWU-IAM Association, an alliance formed by both unions after the merger of American Airlines and US Airways, as the collective bargaining representative for the above employees at the merged carrier

Yes , but TWU Local 591 published a letter stating that the membership will vote on the association

 

[2ndGENAMT]

IMO with people who are non Union added to the ranks there is no way they cannot have a representational vote..

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Disagree - its clearly stated
 
Any Intervenor has 30 days from the date of this determination to file an application supported by a showing of interest of at least 50 percent of the single transportation system in accordance with Manual Sections 19.601 and 19.603.
 
As of today your clock is ticking

I believe THIS determination is referring to the new cases..

 

[Buck]

IMO with people who are non Union added to the ranks there is no way they cannot have a representational vote..

I agree, however the NMB has already determined them as part of a Craft and Class...

 

[2ndGENAMT]

I agree, however the NMB has already determined them as part of a Craft and Class...

That had to be done for SCS. Representation will have to be determined for the new Crafts including everyone in the determination.