TWU-IAM Finally Getting Ready for JCBA Negotiations

[700UW]

The IAM doesn't use outsiders for organizing they use local, district and international staff and rank and file members.

And members do volunteer also,l

 

[Rogallo]

I rest my case.  :huh:

 

[Tim Nelson]

The IAM doesnt have anything to do with fraudulent cards, there is evidence already of DL FAs who were anti-union hacking the IAM survey and other items.
 
The IAM KNOWS EVERY SINGLE card would have their signature verified by the NMB.
 
And I wouldnt be surprised if the NMB gave the IAM a heads up, and working together to find out what happened.
 
Otherwise they wouldnt have known about forged cards.

 

+1
700 is right about this.  In fact, I'd say the IAM prolly threw out a few hundred cards, like it always does, in any election where there are questions about a card.  OTOH, the IAM had incredible support and the anti unionist proudly proclaimed on FB how it sabatoged the IAM surveys and hacked into other things. But, imo, this is a positive as it will just show everyone how evil Delta management is, and it will allow the IAM to continue building its support.  The IAM got a "2 for 1" in that it was able to withdraw, and ALSO have a full blown investigation.  So, I agree with you that the NMB gave the IAM a heads up. Otherwise, if the IAM had the case dismissed and filed interference, the case would have dragged on and it would have caused serious delays and few resources since it would have been a NMB investigation, as opposed to DOJ. 
 
regards,

 

[xUT]

The IAM doesn't use outsiders for organizing they use local, district and international staff and rank and file members.

And members do volunteer also,l

and retired contractors such as vous... DOH!

 

[CMH_GSE]

+1
700 is right about this.  In fact, I'd say the IAM prolly threw out a few hundred cards, like it always does, in any election where there are questions about a card.  OTOH, the IAM had incredible support and the anti unionist proudly proclaimed on FB how it sabatoged the IAM surveys and hacked into other things. But, imo, this is a positive as it will just show everyone how evil Delta management is, and it will allow the IAM to continue building its support.  The IAM got a "2 for 1" in that it was able to withdraw, and ALSO have a full blown investigation.  So, I agree with you that the NMB gave the IAM a heads up. Otherwise, if the IAM had the case dismissed and filed interference, the case would have dragged on and it would have caused serious delays and few resources since it would have been a NMB investigation, as opposed to DOJ. 
 
regards,

Could someone explain what the survey sabotage on Facebook has to do with the cards the IAM screened and then turned in to the NMB as legit?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Could someone explain what the survey sabotage on Facebook has to do with the cards the IAM screened and then turned in to the NMB as legit?

 

It's the same sorta activity. On FB, some anti unionist 'fessed up' and claimed to orchestrate a concerted campaign as a way to sabotage the IAM's efforts by courting friends, children and others in their families to take the survey and provide misleading information.  The surveys became polluted.
 
Although we don't know who sabotaged the cards, it's behavior that is consistent with the behavior found with the survey and other items. The DOJ will figure it out.
 
regards,

 

[CMH_GSE]

It's the same sorta activity. On FB, some anti unionist 'fessed up' and claimed to orchestrate a concerted campaign as a way to sabotage the IAM's efforts by courting friends, children and others in their families to take the survey and provide misleading information.  The surveys became polluted.
 
Although we don't know who sabotaged the cards, it's behavior that is consistent with the behavior found with the survey and other items. The DOJ will figure it out.
 
regards,

Getting on a social media site and taking survey and signing fraudulent cards that are going to be turned into a government agency and scrutinized are two vastly different things, IMO.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Getting on a social media site and taking survey and signing fraudulent cards that are going to be turned into a government agency and scrutinized are two vastly different things, IMO.

 

True, but the behavior is the same and it provides evidence, maybe not finally conclusive, that such persons solicited and encouraged fraudulent behavior during the organizing drive. That we know by there own admission.  We also know that such behavior existed in the official card signing as well.  What we don't know is who did that. Early stages of a classic "Who Dunnit" case.  The DOJ has time to get to the bottom of it. Certainly the NMB believes a significant evidence is out there.
 
Time will tell.
 
regards

 

[700UW]

and retired contractors such as vous... DOH!

That would be a former IAM member and representative, who spent 20 years as an IAM Member, Retirees are a big part of the IAM and help out in many causes.
 
I am not retired, I left the industry.

 

[Rogallo]

Fired?

 

[700UW]

Walked away.

 

[1AA]

Walked away.

I find it difficult to believe you walked away from the industry. Everyone I have come across who has walked away from their job was because they had enough and never looked back. You on the other hand are all over these boards in every topic as if you never left the industry or the union. I would be inclined to believe you were either fired, asked to resign or quit before you were going to get fired. You remind me of that little boy who hangs out at the airport standing up against the chain link fence with his fingers wrapped around the links hoping someone will notice you and someday be on the other side of the fence.

 

[700UW]

I chose my son over having to move to keep my employment..

 

[700UW]

April 15, 2015
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In an announcement that brings us one step closer to joint contract negotiations for more than 30,000 Mechanic and Related, Fleet Service and Stores employees at American Airlines, the National Mediation Board (NMB) today ruled that the carrier is operating as a single transportation system.

Today’s determination is a necessary precursor to certifying the TWU-IAM Association, an alliance formed by both unions after the merger of American Airlines and US Airways, as the collective bargaining representative for the above employees at the merged carrier.

Today’s ruling sets the stage for Association members to get to the table and do whatever it takes to get a labor agreement that recognizes the sacrifices our members and their families have made in order for American Airlines to become the largest and most profitable airline in the world.

30,000 TWU-IAM Association members determined to achieve the industry’s best contracts presents the most formidable labor alliance in the airline industry.

The TWU and IAM have been preparing for joint contract negotiations on the combined carrier, and contract surveys are already underway. Upon NMB certification, the Association will bring American Airlines to the bargaining table so the members the Association represents can achieve the contracts, pay and benefits that are long overdue.

Click here to read the NMB's determination.​

 

[swamt]

 
April 15, 2015
 
In an announcement that brings us one step closer to joint contract negotiations for more than 30,000 Mechanic and Related, Fleet Service and Stores employees at American Airlines, the National Mediation Board (NMB) today ruled that the carrier is operating as a single transportation system.

Today’s determination is a necessary precursor to certifying the TWU-IAM Association, an alliance formed by both unions after the merger of American Airlines and US Airways, as the collective bargaining representative for the above employees at the merged carrier.

Today’s ruling sets the stage for Association members to get to the table and do whatever it takes to get a labor agreement that recognizes the sacrifices our members and their families have made in order for American Airlines to become the largest and most profitable airline in the world.

30,000 TWU-IAM Association members determined to achieve the industry’s best contracts presents the most formidable labor alliance in the airline industry.

The TWU and IAM have been preparing for joint contract negotiations on the combined carrier, and contract surveys are already underway. Upon NMB certification, the Association will bring American Airlines to the bargaining table so the members the Association represents can achieve the contracts, pay and benefits that are long overdue.

Click here to read the NMB's determination.
 

700, forgive me for not having time to read the entire dabble you have attached.  Does this mean the association is a done deal?  Or does this mean it is going to the members for a vote?  Sorry didn't have time to read thru it all...