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Wanted to come back to this one more time as I add more posts. Just personally feel very sorry as Chuck calls all of his Brothers and Sisters pitiful. I only think a few of you who post on here are pitiful. Although I really don't take any pity on you personally. Now if you were on minimum wage with a wife and 4 kids I might. Actually I think you posters are pathetic more so than pitiful.FWAAA said:He has 36 posts in this thread (about AMTs), twice as many as the second-place poster, so it's a given that he's serving his masters.
its your story chief tell like you want to.y most of us think your a paid twu schrill.WeAAsles said:David Eivers. MIA. Got nothing to hide. Easy to find. Stop by, I'll even buy the coffee.
You shouldn't assume that people have to get paid to mess with you. Some may just enjoy tearing down your nonsense and have the balls to do it publicly.
Doesn't disturb me what you guys think. Someone starts a topic like "We really are pitiful" I call that fair game to make comments on.dfw gen said:its your story chief tell like you want to.y most of us think your a paid twu schrill.
sounds like a nerve has been hit. do you work at home? or at the office in hurst? come on man come clean.WeAAsles said:Doesn't disturb me what you guys think. Someone starts a topic like "We really are pitiful" I call that fair game to make comments on.
I'm just trying to bring you guys up from your lack of self confidence. Buck up man.
D24 afternoon Fri Sat off. No nerve. Why? I'm not the one calling myself pitiful. Tell you what. If you want me to leave you guys alone while you wallow, just say so?dfw gen said:sounds like a nerve has been hit. do you work at home? or at the office in hurst? come on man come clean.
WeAAsles said:Nothing more than a dead conversation. -_-
WeAAsles said:Nothing more than a dead conversation. -_-
Realityck said:
Most unions considered the strike ill conceived from the very beginning. AMFA had no strike fund
and, reflecting its separatist philosophy of mechanics acting alone, went on strike while the Pilots,
Flight Attendants and Machinists' Union were still negotiating under pressures of bankruptcy court
proceedings. AMFA bolted ahead of all the other unions, characteristic of their often-stated mantra
that "strength in numbers doesn't necessarily mean strength. " This was the wisdom offered by
AMFA Assistant National Director Steve MacFarlane on the eve of the August 2005 strike. He
couldn't have been more wrong.
Underestimating solidarity with other unions on the property was only one of AMFA's strategic
mistakes. Extremely damaging to unity with other unions was AMFA's negotiating proposal that
NWA take more concessions from IAM members and less from AMFA members. As reported by
Robert Roach Jr., IAMAW General Vice- President Transportation: "AMFA, as an institution, has
proposed and is actively advocating, that Northwest Airlines demand $150,000,000 more [from IAM
members] in concessions than the $107,000,000 Northwest has requested from our membership. "
While AMFA supporters dismiss these claims as slander, most 'unskilled' airline workers who have
been the target of AMFA's scorn since their formation in 1962, are not at all surprised by AMFA's
breach of solidarity at NWA during the 2005 summer contract negotiations. In fact, this breakdown
in solidarity is exactly what occurred only a few months earlier in an AMFA settlement with United
Airlines that directly led to 550 IAM jobs being contracted out. As a result of complex legal
proceedings between AMFA and the IAM over the jobs in question, AMFA negotiators demanded
and received from UAL financial 'credits' for this IAM job loss; thus increasing the hardship on fellow
workers, IAM members, but reducing concessions of AMFA mechanics.
The whole AMFA experience has been a bitter, devastating blow to airline workers. It has led to
division and defeat by an organization that claimed to be more militant and democratic than
established unions but was not. None of AMFA's major claims have stood up; they are neither more
democratic nor more militant than traditional unions they seek to replace.
AMFA suffers from the same political weaknesses as other unions only compounded by active
attempts to split unions and separate 'skilled' workers from other employee groups
Less than 3 years ago when AMFA won an election to represent 9000 UAL mechanics, AMFA's
major campaign slogan was that they would never negotiate concessions. They claimed to always
have rank and file observers at negotiations. They claimed to be the most democratic.
None of these claims have stood up; during NWA on concession bargaining for example, AMFA
members were never given an opportunity to vote on the 'Final and Best Offer' by NWA before the
strike was called in August 2005 and 'rank and file observers' were barred from the recent
negotiations with NWA on the tentative agreement.
Vortilon said:
Really, who penned that little gem? Jim Little? Pure BS. The way I see it, the TWU is living in a glass house, and throwing stones at the AMFA. The AMFA constitution is far superior to anything you catch-all union supporters have. Open negotiations, true democracy and enforcable accountability. Only a POS international suck boy would post such AMT hating drivel as you just did.
Ahhh, a " Social " engineer......ThirdSeatHero said:
It was penned by Carl Finamore.
A former IAM President of IAM Local 1781 in SFO who has carried a grudge since we decertified the IAM in 2003, and it is indeed Pure BS.
Well that should save a little cash for the international, using the free internet at the airport! Good thinking after they pissed away all our dues paying off the bit!WeAAsles said:D24 afternoon Fri Sat off. No nerve. Why? I'm not the one calling myself pitiful. Tell you what. If you want me to leave you guys alone while you wallow, just say so?
Sorry man. Again I'm a schmuck. This is all pro bono.dfw gen said:Well that should save a little cash for the international, using the free internet at the airport! Good thinking after they pissed away all our dues paying off the bit!
ThirdSeatHero said:
It was penned by Carl Finamore.
A former IAM President of IAM Local 1781 in SFO who has carried a grudge since we decertified the IAM in 2003, and it is indeed Pure BS.
Hey your words I never called you a schmuck....if the shoe fits feel free to wear it.WeAAsles said:Sorry man. Again I'm a schmuck. This is all pro bono.
I get all warm and fuzzy inside being a consciences contributer.
And GO AMFA. Oops nevermind.