TWU and IAM representation alliance vote

[Kev3188]

Yep. The better question is why we continue to allow it to happen.

 

[737823]

Yep. The better question is why we continue to allow it to happen.

Because the alliance and sell out agreements like at UA allow Roach and Sito to remain in their cushy positions. The IAM has allowed the membership to get disenfranchised and the company to do as they please. Years ago bosses both respected and feared the IAM as a militant union but not anymore.

Id love to see Roach work under one of the new agreements today.

Josh

 

[Kev3188]

That's the easy answer. The more inconvenient truth is that we all sat by and allowed it to happen.

 

[700UW]

The title of this thread is "TWU and IAM representation alliance vote",  So where is this vote NMB???

And I thought you stated many times the NMB wont be involved in the vote?
 
You even quoted someone from the NMB.

 

[blue collar]

I will have the letter tomorrow, already in the works and if you were skilled labor you would be your own class and craft.
 
http://www.aviationpros.com/article/10385931/dol-classification-of-mechanics
 
Actually, it's the US Department of Labor and their Bureau of Statistics that classifies A&P Mechanics as unskilled (blue collar) labor.

Your proof is some article written almost 10 years ago. How about the DOL website, you have proof from them, or just an old article?

 

[700UW]

Call the DOL if you dont believe me.

 

[TRAVIS]

Words of Mr. Owens:


Josh

That said it all in a nut shell! +1 Josh

 

[737823]

700 would Roach work under the UA ramp agreement or is he too good for it? Is he in physical shape to be working on the ramp?

Josh

 

[TRAVIS]

Your proof is some article written almost 10 years ago. How about the DOL website, you have proof from them, or just an old article?

http://www.aviationpros.com/article/10385931/dol-classification-of-mechanics
 
this was put out in 2005

 

[700UW]

700 would Roach work under the UA ramp agreement or is he too good for it? Is he in physical shape to be working on the ramp?
Josh

Why don't you ask him? Since he had and still has nothing to do with the UA CBA.

Do you have your sock out since you are name dropping once again and bringing up things that have nothing to do with the topic?

 

[700UW]

http://www.aviationpros.com/article/10385931/dol-classification-of-mechanics
 
this was put out in 2005

And it hasn't changed,so why don't you post something that shows the DOL classifies them as skilled labor?

 

[737823]

Why don't you ask him? Since he had and still has nothing to do with the UA CBA.
Do you have your sock out since you are name dropping once again and bringing up things that have nothing to do with the topic?

I'd make a contribution to Guide Dogs of America (IAM charity) if Roach worked a day on the ramp. Don't think he could do it. Sito wouldn't worked under the new US M&R agreement I'm sure either.

Josh

 

[NYer]

And you can thank the IAM for bringing that airline down. Ruining the lives of thousands and thousands of people.  All you want to talk about is the AMFA strike at NWA. But you don't want to badmouth the IAM for calling a strike with an anti-union president in office and an anti-union sentiment in Congress. Why is that?

 
That strike was called, and if you speak with their Members, with the full knowledge it would bring the airlines to its knees. They made the call that they would not let Lorenzo do what he did to Continental to Eastern. Their fight was personal and not about getting wage increases, unlike NWA....If it would have been just about wage increases then it was a bad call.
 
The NWA situations was markedly different and the strategy failed. The Members did authorize the strike vote, but they were not allowed to vote on the last offer before the strike and two subsequent offers during the strike. Eventually they came back on the airline's terms.

 

[TRAVIS]

And it hasn't changed,so why don't you post something that shows the DOL classifies them as skilled labor?

I work under a IAM contract and don't have 100k to make the change myself.
 
(The committee was receptive, but the logistics of the change required a modification of the national census database. Because the database for the 2000 census had already been written, it would have cost more than $100,000 to make the change. The money was not available and it ended there.
However, the concept was perceived as having merit and Goglia and O'Brien were encouraged to resubmit their request and justifications in the 2005 timeframe for the 2010 census. And PAMA has begun anew the process of establishing its own labor code.)
 
I would donate to the cause and if every AMT put in $20.00 It may happen...

 

[NYer]

 

 
In order to save the AMFA represented employees and more hardship they AMFA's Leaders decided to give up the representation to ease the transition with Delta. -AMFA decided to save their Members more "hardship" by allowing them to go to a non-union shop to "ease the transition." Whaaaa?