An OSM topped out rate today is $ 18.58. You are quoting the MAINTENANCE SUPPORT PERSON rate. The AMTO is paid the AMT rate minus his License Premium. As of today the AMT/AMTO rate is $31.00 and when fully compensated and considered an AMT, he gains his premium back.AA767JET said:
So since Right to Work doesn't hurt you personally but it destroys other union members in Oklahoma it's not a bad thing? RTW is just an example of the anti union crap that the GOP pushes. They have changed the bankruptcy laws so big business can screw the workers. And they have made the Railway Labor Act slant so far toward the airline management it is impossible to get a fair deal. These two issues have affected you.Buck said:
cockpit doors or Entry or Service Doors. Many have considered this program to be a failure due to the way the scope was written. An AMTO cannot leave his Check. Therefore if there is a drop in sitting the next aircraft dock over that is not a "C" Check the AMTO cannot work it .
I do not believe I ever stated that RTW was good or bad. Now you are defending these RedNeck Yokels you were slamming just the other day. "See Ment" and "Po Dunk Hell Oklahoma" If the GOP has legislated the labor laws so that the RLA is slanted toward Airline Management, then where is your savior they call the President and and the Congress that had control for the last 6 years? Why have they not changed these horrifying laws?OldGuy@AA said:
Well, I was trying to learn and understand until this thread took a nasty turn.......Buck said:
We never had anything like this until we merged with America West.767 mechanic said:
Ever since 1983 the company has attempted and succeeded in creating a Mechanic Sub Culture with the blessing of the TWU. Basically the old guys getting something good at the behest of the new guys coming in. It was A-Scale vs B-Scale and then over the years this progressed until today with a class of of Licensed Mechanics working on part of the aircraft without License compensation. Now, the TWU will tell you that if this was not done, that either the A-Scale would not have received what the did or that the B-Scale would not have ever been hired. The thought that eventually everyone would become a topped out mechanic and get theirs. Selling off the Low Seniority to compensate the High Seniority, even before they were here. In my opinion this is where the division within the membership of the TWU began, at least during my employment. This same attitude had and has propagated to a division between the Base Maintenance and the Line Maintenance. Remember that The TWU style of unionism, is to get as many people unionized as possible and this has it's merit. However it also has caused the current stat of affairs whereby we here at AA and unionized by the TWU continually scrape the bottom of the compensation barrel. Today this separation within Title 1 from AMT to AMTO ( OSM ) is another dividing factor which the TWU can use to manipulate it's membership. Do not forget that under the same Title 1 you have the AMT's that are Machinist, Welders and others. These groups have directly support everyone else. Having your A&P does not always grant you access to all jobs, at least here at Tulsa. There is and has been internal problems between these units. IT would be rare if any of us could come to an agreement. This is probably why we still have the union we do.Real tired said:
They did it in the 80s when they took one license premium away from AMTs in shops while grandfathering the A scalers so they could keep their two license premiums. I believe the Fleet Service Clerk chairing the negotiations is capable of anything that would further destroy the AMT profession.2ndGENAMT said:
