Tulsa AMT movement.

[Buck]

What's an AMTO?

An AMTO is an AMT that is of an OSM status, which was a SRP which is an unlicensed aircraft mechanic commonly found at an AA maintenance base that is a member of the TWU...

 

[Buck]

It's always been there, crew chiefs are a different classification when it come to rifs if I get time later I'll look it up.

Sorry it has not always been there, not before the SRP, OSM and AMTO BS was created.
 
 
Crew Chief:
 
(e) In the event of a reduction in force in the Crew Chief classification the following will apply:
 
(1) A Crew Chief may exercise his seniority to displace the least senior Crew Chief at his station or in the system, provided he passes or has previously passed the qualification test for the job he is displacing; or (2) If the Crew Chief’s previous position was a Higher Capacity (Technical Crew Chief or Inspector) immediately prior to becoming a Crew Chief, he will be allowed to displace the least senior Technical Crew Chief or Inspector at his station or an Inspector in the system provided he passes or has previously passed the qualification test for the job he is displacing; or (3) The Crew Chief may exercise his Occupational seniority in his Basic Classification under the provisions of paragraph (   B   )

 

[Buck]

An AMTO is an AMT that is of an OSM status, which was a SRP which is an unlicensed aircraft mechanic commonly found at an AA maintenance base that is a member of the TWU...and they are allowed to work in the Cabin of the aircraft within a limited scope. All Cabin Interior but Not the Cockpit door.

 

[iluvaa]

You answered your own question is there a reduction in the crew chief classification or are they adding 2 generals in 1/2. So since there is not a reduction in that classification he is not effected

 

[Buck]

You answered your own question is there a reduction in the crew chief classification or are they adding 2 generals in 1/2. So since there is not a reduction in that classification he is not effected

Yes, because you said when you had time? I had the time so I did. It also says that the Crew Chief is by Paragraph B, which is by seniority. Now does that mean that a Machinist Crew Chief can bump a A&P junior to him? Then if the 2011 Crew Chief position was originally a temporary bid how is that position affected?

 

[iluvaa]

Now that is very true the temp postion is 12 mo and that was up in dec 2014. And I called the union myself in January and nothing has been done maybe you will have better luck informing them. That job should be put up for bid

 

[Buck]

I have discussing this Tulsa Movement as if it was a RIF when in reality it is a surplus. I believe different rules apply.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

NY needs at least 75. Between transfers, resignations and the worst deal in the industry they are having a hard time keeping the place staffed.

Looks like management isn't concerned about NY staffing as there is a transfer requisition on Jetnet now for 30+ for MIA and half on the list are JFK alone with some LGA. None from Tulsa yet.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

27 OSM spots in DWH also!

 

[Kev3188]

An AMTO is an AMT that is of an OSM status, which was a SRP which is an unlicensed aircraft mechanic commonly found at an AA maintenance base that is a member of the TWU...

Thank you.

 

[AA767JET]

How much does a topped out OSM make per hour ???
I noticed that there are alot of AMT's on the DWH OSM list ....

 

[Buck]

How much does a topped out OSM make per hour ???
I noticed that there are alot of AMT's on the DWH OSM list ....

A topped out OSM ( AMTO ) earns what the base of a Topped out AMT minus his License Premium.  Just so you on the Line understand, that is - $5.00 ( I know you are not Idiots, wait ) there are the "Other" within Title 1, Welders and Machinists, who are at the AMT base plus a Skill Premium of I believe $3.00 an hour. Also these fellow AMT's that weld and work the machines have a contractual right to bump to the Aircraft. 

 

[Rogallo]

So what is DWH. Base Mx or Line Mx?
 
No license premium. Are unlicensed OSM's working the line?

 

[AA767JET]

I just checked the contract and a topped out OSM makes 24.78 per hour right now ... I also checked and found out if you are an AMT right now and you choose to transfer to an OSM position it's technically a downgrade and you will only get 24.78 per hour .. If you are affected by a RIF and you are forced by the company to bump down to an OSM hence amto you are then paid what a base mechanic gets paid per hour minus the 5.00 lic premium ...

 

[Buck]

So what is DWH. Base Mx or Line Mx?
 
No license premium. Are unlicensed no no OSM's working the line?

AA considers DWH to be a base. No OSM's which are referred to as AMTO's Without going to the contract, the AMTO's work consists of inside the cabin. Seats.,  Sidewalls  and  Air Grills, Carpet, Cleaning Ceilings Galleys etc. .  No Cockpit or cockpit doors or Entry or Service Doors. Many have considered this program to be a failure due to the way the scope was written. An AMTO cannot leave his Check. Therefore if there is a drop in sitting the next aircraft dock over that is not a "C" Check the AMTO cannot work it .