The "I LOVE Sarah Palin" Thread

[Bobbie]

So, she's been mayor and governor: exactly what has she accomplished in those positions that shows she's ready to be VP of the world's most powerful nation??

Let's talk about experience...

Let me think...Bill Clinton...Governor of Arkansas....Ronald Reagan, Governor of California....Jimmy Carter, Governor of Georgia...Franklin Roosevelt, Governor of New York.

Depending on your party affiliation or your personal beliefs, these Presidents, who were also Governors, are regarded as "great Presidents" by their respective parties, save for Jimmy Carter, who I'm sure the Democratic party would like to forget.

Bill Clinton...nothing prior to Governor of Arkansas...one failed US House race

Ronald Reagan...nothing prior to Governor of California and some failed campaigns. Union President and Actor

Jimmy Carter. Briefly a State Senator, held various positions on school, library, and hospital boards...failed campaign for governor before being elected.

Franklin Roosevelt...State Senator from New York, Assistant Secretary of the Navy, and then Governor of New York.

Sorry, folks, but experience not only doesn't count for a VICE President...it doesn't count for a PRESIDENT, either.

Bill Clinton and FDR are held up like heroes by Democrats, just like Reagan is by the Republicans. I think we all agree about Jimmy Carter. The point I'm making is that we've had plenty of "just Governor" candidates with virtually no federal experience and some of them are regarded as our best Presidents.

 

[Bobbie]

Pick your favorites from these lists...don't know about you, but the Governors are getting my vote...Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon...yuck! The only one I'd drop off the Governor's list would be George W. Bush for his disastrous economic policy and maybe Carter as penalty for the handling of the economy and the Iran hostage crisis.

Presidents who were Governors (sixteen):
Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, John Tyler, Martin Van Buren, James Polk, Andrew Johnson, Rutherford Hayes, Grover Cleveland, William McKinley, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Calvin Coolidge, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush.

Presidents who were Senators (fifteen):
James Monroe, John Quincy Adams, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, Benjamin Harrison, Warren G. Harding, Harry S. Truman, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson and Richard M. Nixon.

 

[KCFlyer]

Bobbie...does it matter that there are more people in Fort Worth, Texas than there are in the entire state of Alaska?

 

[rjh]

Sorry, folks, but experience not only doesn't count for a VICE President...it doesn't count for a PRESIDENT, either.

I agree with you 100% on that. things like intelligence, leadership skills, and a working (although not necessarily expert) knowledge of the important issues are much more important. Maybe Palin has those qualities, maybe not: I just have not seen proof of it yet.

More importantly, you should vote for someone that shares your view of the issues. She definitely does NOT possess that quality.

 

[777 fixer]

She may not impose a 'theocracy'...but I've just been thru 8 years of God telling a president what to do. I haven't been impressed, and I don't want 4 more years of it.

Exactly my point! Even if she wanted to she can't. And may I remind you, she's running for vice-president. The only way she will ever see the Oval Office is if McCain kicks off. Otherwise her job will be to attend state funerals and cast a tie breaking vote in the senate.

It seems like the norm now that every four years some people throw logic and reason out the window. When Clinton was elected some were saying that he would sell us out to the UN and we would lose our sovereignty. Did it happen? With Obama there are all kinds of bizarre stuff said about him. Now there have been stories about Palin, someone who's not even running as president, that don't pass basic fact checks.

 

[Cosworth]

Otherwise her job will be to attend state funerals and cast a tie breaking vote in the senate.

So, does that mean the influence that Cheney has exerted in the current administration has been a figment of my imagination? The VP can be as important/unimportant as they choose to be. Palin could have a huge impact on the nation if she were to be set loose.

 

[Cosworth]

I do not get all of this immediate adoration for Palin. Sure, she's ultra-conservative, which is why the republicans love her. But they loved her immediately, and that was the first time that 95% of the people ever HEARD of her.

They like her becasue she is not McCain. Keep in mind that the republican base never wanted/liked McCain. They would have voted for him because they did not like Obama or they would have stayed home. Palin speaks to the hard core republican base who do not believe in abortion, believe ID should be taught in school.... etc. They do not need to know who she is or what she has done. All they need to know is that she is not McCain and hope that she can influence McCain on policy issues. I am sure that there are several who also hope that McCain kicks off and leaves Palin in charge.

The fact that she does not have a problem going to war with Russia over Georgia and the Ukraine does not enter into the equation.

 

[777 fixer]

So, does that mean the influence that Cheney has exerted in the current administration has been a figment of my imagination? The VP can be as important/unimportant as they choose to be. Palin could have a huge impact on the nation if she were to be set loose.

Thank you for proving the point I was trying to make. A VP will be important/unimportant as the president wishes he or she to be. There's no choosing on the VP's part.

How could she have a huge impact if she were let loose? Could she enact law? We all know the answer to that, at least I hope we do.

 

[Bobbie]

Bobbie...does it matter that there are more people in Fort Worth, Texas than there are in the entire state of Alaska?

It doesn't matter in terms of qualifications. There are challenges faced by a state with smaller population that don't affect larger states. The same holds true of the inverse, where large states have issues that don't affect smaller states. Those challenges are different but neither qualify a person of being President any more or less.

Alaska has a land area that is daunting. They've got tremendous population growth. Texas has tremendous issues with public school funding. California has a budget crisis. States are states and Alaska is no more or less difficult to manage than Texas or California. Different issues...same basic theme: MANAGEMENT.

 

[PITbull]

I am voting for both of the candidates. McCain's entire career is something most of us could only dream of in terms of achievement and patriotism. No one's qualifications even come close. He's amply qualified to be President and I support him fully!

What are you saying???? McCain is the only POW???

We have service men who have no arms or legs, had their heads blown and survived...don't get what makes McCain special from other POWs who have suffered worse. Except for the fact that he's married to a multi-millionaire who catipolted him into the senate... financing his campaign in the 80s.

He's actually NOT a bright guy on any level, and now is hanging on to his candidate VP's skirt to pull him into the White House. I respect his service to his country; just as any other POW has done and DOES.

 

[tech2101]

I am voting for both of the candidates.

You are not.

I will let those who don't know research your previous posts.

 

[700IAM]

I knew you'd bring Obama and the reverend Wright into this....

Personal note----My 80 year old Mother's boy friend was a big time union leader in DC. His name is Pete and he knows the good Reverend Wright. He hates the reverend telling me that Wright called him a grey, which is I guess worse than being white or black, as per the reverend anyway.

Pete the retired union official is a die hard democrat of course, regardless he admitted and agreed with me 1000 percent that Obama was absolutely influenced by the whack job reverend. I said this many times on these boards which is reason enough for me not to vote for Obama.

Who Pete the former union official is going to vote for I don't know. He is too nice a guy to take to task plus I respect my elders too much. I just hope he uses sanity at the ballot box. Now my mother---she wanted me to put an Obama poster in my front yard She like most of you thinks I am a Jesus freak and ate up with it. I thank her for that compliment and all of you too.

Ok Bobbie back to Palin

 

[700IAM]

He's actually NOT a bright guy on any level, and now is hanging on to his candidate VP's skirt

I don't agree and seldom do agree with the bull, but do enjoy the laughs these kinds of posts evoke

As far as bright, what IS bright...Obama going to a church run by a mad man for 20 years? Hmmm

 

[Cosworth]

I know 'bright' is not thinking that it is OK to go to war with Russia over Georgia and the Ukraine.

 

[TheNewUSAirways]

I think the choice of Sarah Palin is a refreshing change for the Republican Party. I'm a lifelong Liberal and support Liberal causes. I'm disappointed in the Democratic Party ticket. I don't think they're in it to win it. I don't like Barack Obama and I don't like Joe Biden. They represent institutionalized politicians who seek to return us to a fantasy past that never existed. It's regressive and not PROgressive to vote for them. It's more of the same "We Hate Republicans" kind of democratic disaster that has kept us from standing up to Bush. All talk and no action...proven.

Sarah Palin represents best what our founding fathers intended when the country was founded. We've lost touch with the fact that "career politician" is a relatively new development. The American dream involves a lot of things, but it's well-documented that the intent was to have ordinary people in politics and to be involved in government. It is a government OF the people and BY the people...not just FOR the people. Nowhere does it say that a career in politics is required. Jesse Ventura is a prime example.

Obviously, everyone has their preferences of who they will vote for. But it seems very illogical to me that someone who is a "lifelong liberal" and supports liberal causes would vote for McCain, because of the addition of Palin to the ticket.

It also seems illogical to vote for Palin just because she's not a "career politician". As the conservatives love to point out that Obama has about the same amount of time in politics as Pallin does. Not to mention that McCAin has been in politics a LOT longer than Obama.