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Are you talking about these guys swamt??
AMFA leaders turn scab at NWA in Duluth
Read the article here
http://www.laborworl...1-25-2006v5.pdf
Nothing personal. and no offense intended, but Bull Sh@t lineguy. Nobody believes that because you have lost so much already. How much more will you take? Sign a Teamster card and start your road to recovery.
Ok dude I get it. No its not personal I get your position you are paid by the Ibt gotta bow to your leader. I don't blame anyone who tries to climb the union ladder I know rampers who make 6 figures more than any AMT just playing the union line. I make a great wage without benefit of any union especially the Ibt and with the reamsters its personal. When Hoffa flew on NW during our strike he was asked about our strike and he made it abundantly clear AMFA was not a real union. So F'K him and the horse he rode in on. Why would I sign a teamster card to make less and pay dues too?
Your quote was, I believe, I would rather be on an unemployment line with amfa than have a job with AA and accept TWU concessions. I simply find it hard to belive someone these days would actually consciously take that route. Not saying you wouldn't, but would find i hard to believe even if you did. Just me.
I keep hearing about this Hoffa flying on NWA business. All I have ever heard is that he did it. I am not saying I disagree with you, but I would like to question the IBT on this. In past occurrences where I have disagreed with the Teamsters, I have found that by including as many specifics as possible often gets me more straight answers. I would like to ask them their side of this, so any help you can provide would be appreciated.
If you know any of this; what year did he fly? Do you know the origin and destination of the flight? If anyone has a flight number that would be a huge bonus too. Hard to deny with a traceable locator record. I am not trying to change yours or anybody's mind on this, just want to look in to this for my own self interest. I like knowing the truth about my union too. The good and the bad. Any info you have will be helpful to me. Thanks
No I did not have toast with my coffee..........
What the hell are you talking about Bob??? What does my post have to do with red white and blue? I do not know if a signature title is the deciding consideration for determining who might be willing crossing a picket line, but it seems unlikely.
As a unionist can you agree that if you are going to use the highest degree of self help available and go on strike, your union should be fully prepared for a full and lengthy encounter?
amfa went all in on a pair of twos and hoped the company had a worse hand, although every indication was that NWA was completely ready for the battle, and had trained plenty of replacement workers. amfa was simply not ready, nor did they have the resources needed, but they lead their mechanics out any way. The were doomed from the start.
Even the President of the United States turned his back on the striking workers, but amfa stubbornly marched on.
Mr. Owens, Do you think as member of AMFA you will still call yourself a Unionist?
Mr. Owens, Do you think as member of AMFA you will still call yourself a Unionist?
Your quote was, I believe, I would rather be on an unemployment line with amfa than have a job with AA and accept TWU concessions. I simply find it hard to belive someone these days would actually consciously take that route. Not saying you wouldn't, but would find i hard to believe even if you did. Just me.
I keep hearing about this Hoffa flying on NWA business. All I have ever heard is that he did it. I am not saying I disagree with you, but I would like to question the IBT on this. In past occurrences where I have disagreed with the Teamsters, I have found that by including as many specifics as possible often gets me more straight answers. I would like to ask them their side of this, so any help you can provide would be appreciated.
If you know any of this; what year did he fly? Do you know the origin and destination of the flight? If anyone has a flight number that would be a huge bonus too. Hard to deny with a traceable locator record. I am not trying to change yours or anybody's mind on this, just want to look in to this for my own self interest. I like knowing the truth about my union too. The good and the bad. Any info you have will be helpful to me. Thanks
Wouldn't the Teamster Pilots of Champion Air flying NWA flights to scab over maintenance delayes to assist NWA Management suffice to make the point? Who really cares what Hoffa did? His reputation is already clear and in the public view for anyone to see what he stands for.
I care what Hoffa did. In no way shape or form should a union leader, especially as high up as Hoffa is, fly on a carrier that is on strike. He should have shown union solidarity as the truckers did that refused to deliver across NWA strike lines.
And when do thousands of AA mechanics stand up as the mechs of NWA took a stand for the AMT's of America? When Overspeed? FREAKIN when? These guys at NWA were not directed by AMFA to stay on strike. They all voted to stay out because NWA company wanted to cut more than 50% of them so they all desided to say, "if they want 50% plus then they can't have all of us." These are true union men and women, not lame freakin pusies like the AA/TWU mechs that caved time and time again to the AA companies concesions for the last freakin 3 decades!!!!
Louie Key and OV in no way shape or form direct the NWA guys what to do. They desided to do it themselves. Unlike what you boys could do yourselves at AA. Get your facts straight Overspeed. This was the most union supported employee group I have ever seen in years. I walked the picket line with all the brothers and sisters at NWA at DFW as well as in other cities. Why because AMFA local 11 more than OVERWHELMINGLY supported them while out on strike. Can you sir, say the same about your freaking "Scab Supporting" teamsters??? #### no!!! You cannot...