Teamsters filed at USAir for representation

[700UW]

Well ask the half the SFO mechanics are forced to be members in LAX.

MCO mechanics are forced to be members in MIA.

IAD, PHL and BWI members are forced to be members in NYC, under the IBT.

And mechanics for UPS are all in one local, so you can be in LAX and be a member of 2727 in SDF, if I remember correctly.

All places except for UPS have non-airline dominated locals under the IBT.

 

[TRAVIS]

Nope, they all have offices in the cities they represent, and we have monthly union meetings in each location where they are represented.

Once again you lie, the IAM removed the officers in question at 2339N and took the local over in trusteeship and some of the former members were charged under the law.

First time I've seen my AGC or any one from the upper IAM in over a Year was after the IBT Filed cards and the First time the boys on recall have seen any updates or any thing from the IAM wasn't till the IBT campaign and filed cards and now they get informed.... I guess out of sight out of mind till they need you.
Who works for Who?

VOTE IBT!!
HAVE A NICE IBT DAY!

 

[700UW]

Well maybe you need to attend your union meetings so you can see them, the company frowns upon them being in the workplace.

And you wouldnt see an AGC as you are represented by a GC.

 

[700UW]

Another ibt broken and false promises:

http://youtu.be/jeqfCcekPww

 

[Tim Nelson]

Nope, they all have offices in the cities they represent, and we have monthly union meetings in each location where they are represented.

Once again you lie, the IAM removed the officers in question at 2339N and took the local over in trusteeship and some of the former members were charged under the law.

LMAO. what offices do our agc's have in the stations they represent? Hold on, I gotta get my popcorn. LMAO

 

[Tim Nelson]

LMAO. what offices do our agc's have in the stations they represent? Hold on, I gotta get my popcorn. Try telling those 6 stations that just got put on notice at United that their work is going to vendors on October 15. BTW, I don't believe any of those stations had a local within 100 miles other than I think CVG was in a local in cincinatti.
LMAO

 

[Tim Nelson]

But they dont have a pension.

They dont have a single JCBA.

Most of them cant even participate in their own local as they are hundreds of miles away.

The IBT United folks have a retirement. It's just not the IAM pension. It's in the form of a 401k. In fact, the company, United airlines, puts more money into a topped out United mechanic's 401k than it contributes to the IAMPF.
That's the only math that counts! How much does a company put into a retirement? And they don't have a JCBA but are light years in front of the IAM at United. At least the IBT chose to stand by its members and refuse transition talks until management compensated its mechanics with a 12% pay increase over 2 years. How much did the IAM get? LMAO. Try ZERO because they supported management and coughed up section 6 talks.

 

[1AA]

We at AA only get a 5.5% match. That is hardly a pension. You will be AA soon. Do you think it will be as good as ual's 401? Do some research before you assume. You need to compare to AA since that is what you will get.

 

[700UW]

They have 701 airplanes and only three lines of c-checks in SFO.

A 401k is your own money, the IAMNPF is not coming out of personal money, and its almost $86 a month multiplier and asking for $104, a 401k will run out in 15 years, the pension pays for life.

6% over the past two years, after the amendable date!

The IAM is not in transition talks at US, they are in Section 6.

Keep lying timmy.

 

[Tim Nelson]

They have 701 airplanes and only three lines of c-checks in SFO.

A 401k is your own money, the IAMNPF is not coming out of personal money, and its almost $86 a month multiplier and asking for $104, a 401k will run out in 15 years, the pension pays for life.

6% over the past two years, after the amendable date!

The IAM is not in transition talks at US, they are in Section 6.

Keep lying timmy.

700, stick to the topic. You brought up United, and I showed how you are full of S. BTW, what the h are you talking about regarding a 401??? Don't you ever read contracts? You claimed that the United IBT MX didn't have a retirement, and I pointed out that United pays more into their 401k than it does in the IAMPF.

As an aside, do you still think all 401k money is personal money? LMAO

 

[Tim Nelson]

700, the IAM won the arbitration over the TPA MTC base right? How many mechanics are at that base now?

 

[700UW]

First of all IBT promised UA a defined pension plan.

With your all knowing knowledge how come you cant understand a 401k is not a pension plan?

The IAM never arbitrated Tampa, a lawsuit was filed in court and won by the IAM, US used chapter 11 to get out of paying it, shall I have Regan send it to you?

Since you claim to know it all, you dont know diddly.

The TPA work is in CLT.

A 401k will run out in 15 years, a pension doesnt.

 

[Tim Nelson]

First of all IBT promised UA a defined pension plan.

With your all knowing knowledge how come you cant understand a 401k is not a pension plan?

The IAM never arbitrated Tampa, a lawsuit was filed in court and won by the IAM, US used chapter 11 to get out of paying it, shall I have Regan send it to you?

Since you claim to know it all, you dont know diddly.

The TPA work is in CLT.

A 401k will run out in 15 years, a pension doesnt.

What are you talking about, a 401k will run out in 15 years? BTW, pensions get frozen or get taken over. I feel fairly uncomfortable relying on a defined benefit plan that can redefine the future benefit with more membership losses. As far as the TPA work, that sucks those guys lost that work in TPA.

 

[blue collar]

Well ask the half the SFO mechanics are forced to be members in LAX.

MCO mechanics are forced to be members in MIA.

IAD, PHL and BWI members are forced to be members in NYC, under the IBT.

And mechanics for UPS are all in one local, so you can be in LAX and be a member of 2727 in SDF, if I remember correctly.

All places except for UPS have non-airline dominated locals under the IBT.

So, what makes the IAM structure of having locals in every city superior? I'm just wondering, because I didn't see any benefit. When I was in TWU, there were local station meetings monthly, and it was a local comprised of mx. With the IAM I was in a local dominated by ramp/cs. I'm currently AMFA, and back to a strictly mx local, which provides me far greater info/access than the IAM structure.

 

[Tim Nelson]

So, what makes the IAM structure of having locals in every city superior? I'm just wondering, because I didn't see any benefit. When I was in TWU, there were local station meetings monthly, and it was a local comprised of mx. With the IAM I was in a local dominated by ramp/cs. I'm currently AMFA, and back to a strictly mx local, which provides me far greater info/access than the IAM structure.

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