Statement from IAM
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Ok, but are you claiming that the IAM did not get financial support from USAIR to conduct the concessions campaign?
The IAM paid all lost time, lodging, per diem and cost of advisers.
The company reimbursed the IAM, as well as ALPA, AFA, CWA and the TWU, reasonable expenses.
Would you want your dues money to pay for concessions?
The company reimbursed the IAM, as well as ALPA, AFA, CWA and the TWU, reasonable expenses.
Would you want your dues money to pay for concessions?
So the answer is YES, the IAM accepted over $1 million towards a concessions campaign.
The fact is whether the money comes from dues or the company I dont think unions should be in the business of concessions.
To me, the fact that the union accepted money for concessions is despicable, no matter how they try to spin it.
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Teamsters take no money in reimbursement from the company - we are not on the take from the company
But your buddies in the TWU do.
While you guys are at it why dont you go for the whole thing? Why just go for the mechanics? If you are an industrial union then act like one.
Bull,
The ibt took money from CO when the ibt AMTs took concessions last year, to reimburse them for expenses.
I was in IAH at the same hotel where the negotiations were taking place. As I was there with CO IAM F/As and the ibt was just down the hall.
The ibt took money from CO when the ibt AMTs took concessions last year, to reimburse them for expenses.
I was in IAH at the same hotel where the negotiations were taking place. As I was there with CO IAM F/As and the ibt was just down the hall.
Ok so none of the unions are pure.
But, what are the options here?
Stay the course with the IAM, with a fractured labor movement where airline workers are spread out through all different unions lead by old, inefffective , visionless "leaders" whose response to the utter failure of unions in this industry is to "blame the members"? Isnt that what you have been doing?
Or, should we all try to regroup in one union and gain back what we lost?
The fact is if you stay IAM that will never happen. The IAM will not raid TWU because of AFL-CIO affiliation. The only reason why this is going on at USAIR is because of the merger, the fact is the TWU has not, and probably will not file because they barely got in at AWA and their reputation among unionized airline workers is the worst. If the TWU files, those workers will end up non-union, which may be a good thing, because then the IBT only needs to get 35% to file for those workers.One of the reasons why the IAM did not file at AA (with the aquisition of TWA) was because they were concerned that AMFA may get in.
The only viable option at this time to try and all get into one union is the IBT because they are no longer constrained by AFL-CIO rules.
700UW, what would prevent you from becoming an IBT official? Can you honestly say that you believe that the structure we have in place as workers has been effective since deregulation?Or are you so terified of change that you would rather stay on a sinking ship and take all your coworkers, the people you say you care about, down with you?
The whole system is broken.
The ibt and the IAM need to work together and not fight each other.
I don't have all the answers but what any union is doing today in the airline industry is failing and it is failing because the membership is too apathetic.
You have to work within the union to effect change, and no I am not scared.
The ibt and the IAM need to work together and not fight each other.
I don't have all the answers but what any union is doing today in the airline industry is failing and it is failing because the membership is too apathetic.
You have to work within the union to effect change, and no I am not scared.
Apathy is a symptom of not having leadership.
We can not effectivly unite in different unions. Divide and conquer. The IAM must go.
Leaders tell reformist to work from within because they know thats where they have their power and control, thats why reform from within almost never happens.
At least you admit that the system is broken, now we just have to agree on what exactly is broken and how to fix it.
Lets go. What do you feel is wrong? Other than blaming the members for doing what their leaders tell them to do. Give me specifics of what you feel needs to be done and what those actions will achieve.
holee sheeyut.....better play the lottery today.......The whole system is broken.
The ibt and the IAM need to work together and not fight each other.😱
I don't have all the answers but what any union is doing today in the airline industry is failing and it is failing because the membership is too apathetic.
You have to work within the union to effect change, and no I am not scared.
going republican next???
I guess such direct questioning is outside the range of rhetorical reply so 700 had to leave. I'm used to such responses from the TWU.
The fact is the only thing that the members are guilty of is tolerating inept self serving leadership from their unions. Management of the union is the responsibility of the leaders of the union, all our problems stem from this mismanagement, workers do have the opportunity to fire these people, it comes rarely, and is comes in the form of a representation vote. So if you have the opportunity what shall it be? Keep these people? People who blame you for their poor management of the union? Basically they are saying "You f%&*@D up, you trusted us".
If you keep the IAM, what do they promise to do different?
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