Sandra Bland

[Hackman]

   
OK, lets deal with the first part. The only law she broke was to change lanes with out signalling. Not acting with deference is not illegal and no basis for his escalation.

You have yet to explain how a cop is justified in yanking a woman out of a car for not putting out a cigarette and subsequently arresting her.

I do not think the attitude of the person being pulled over should be any more of a factor than the attitude of the cop. He is there to do a job and that job is to enforce the law. I do not have to happy much less nice if I get stopped. So long as I do not threaten the officer or others I fail to see how my behavior should justify an arrest.

Feel free to explain your view on that ... or just go ahead and hurl more insults. What ever floats your boat.

1.She was stopped for not signaling a lane change.
2.She was angry about being stopped. White cop, redneck in Texas. Black lives matter attitude.
3.The officer nicely asked to extinguish a cigs 800deg cherry that could injure the officer, police have that right if they feel like it. Got it? 
4."I do not think the attitude of the person being pulled over"  Here in lies the problems with the lefties.
5.Bland failed follow the officers lawful orders. Officer arrested her for resisting his commands to exit the vehicle. LAWFUL ARREST.
6.You don't have to be nice to a cop. Sometimes it helps.
7.Disobey a lawful police order, "Get out of the vehicle", you might get arrested.
8.Leftists are above the law, especially black ones.

 

[Ms Tree]

He asked, she said no. Where is the problem?

There is no law against smoking. What law allows him to demand that she extinguish a cigarette? Serious;y. What allows him to make that demand?

Here in lies the problem of conservatives. Always do what you are told to do ... except when you do not agree with it. For example, Cliven Bundy had the support of nearly all the conservatives? Do you think Mr Bundy should be arrested? After all he has a huge attitude with the law enforcement and has broken the law.

Yes she was lawfully arrested for not following the orders of the police (not in contention)
Yes it does help to be nice (not in contention) but if you are not 'nice' or the cop is having a bad day why should that affect the out come. The law does not care who is nice or not. You still have not addressed that issue.

Yes, disobey and there are consequences. Not in contention either.

Except when righties are above the law and ignored by the righties.

 

[delldude]

 
There you have it.  Derelict in her duty because she didn't rip the woman out of the car, taze her, take her to the ground, handcuff her and cuss back at her.  Cops are expected to kick butt and take names.  And it's apparent that 6 minutes is too long to listen to what a cop who USED to kick butt and take names had to say about changing up just a little bit.  Arrests up....confiscated drugs and money up....complaints - zero.  Because they treat people like people.  Apparently to the right - a practice that is "weak".   
 
I notice from your side....no comments about the open carry gun nuts disobeying cops....no comments about the KCMO police training....no comment about "a confrontation resolved".    I'm not sure what it is, but on another board I post to, no right wingers comment on those same videos.   A 30 year cop saying "there's a better way".  I guess that means you all can't dispute it.  At least not without using the word "tard" somewhere in the reply. 

 
 
LOL.....Kay See.....chill..........LOL
 
You done foaming at the mouth or what?
That officer had every right to arrest that woman for terroristic threats if she chose to do that.
 
Regarding Bland, she too , chose to do that and ended up arrested.
She hung herself due to some guy supposed to make bail, never returned her call.

 

[KCFlyer]

 
 
LOL.....Kay See.....chill..........LOL
 
You done foaming at the mouth or what?
That officer had every right to arrest that woman for terroristic threats if she chose to do that.
 
Regarding Bland, she too , chose to do that and ended up arrested.
She hung herself due to some guy supposed to make bail, never returned her call.

 
Once again...I haven't mentioned her death....just the treatment by the cop.   If the cops came down your street and politely asked for your guns, would you hand them over?  What if one of the cops became belligerent -  would you maintain your calm and tell him no?  What if he pulled his taser out and threatened you with it.  You haven't done anything wrong, but the cops were giving you orders....do you comply? 

 

[Ifly2]

Of course they will KC

Of course they will

Good little Tories always do whatever the police ask them

 

[delldude]

 
Once again...I haven't mentioned her death....just the treatment by the cop.   If the cops came down your street and politely asked for your guns, would you hand them over?  What if one of the cops became belligerent -  would you maintain your calm and tell him no?  What if he pulled his taser out and threatened you with it.  You haven't done anything wrong, but the cops were giving you orders....do you comply? 

 
Politely?   Not without a court order.  
He pulls his weapon, the situation has deteriorated to the point where the officer is concerned for hos own safety.
 
Bland refused to comply and that officer at that moment has to consider (in a split second) whether she will or won't escalate the event.
 

 
Must be a female thang, Yo'

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

"In a traffic stop, is it legal for an officer to order a driver to put out a cigarette and exit the car?

Ms. Bland has a right to smoke in her car, but Trooper Encinia could argue that the cigarette was interfering with legitimate police business. Since he had already processed the papers, however, “I don’t see a good reason,” said Robert Weisberg, a criminal procedure expert and law professor at Stanford University.
During a traffic stop, a police officer has the right to ask a driver to get out of the car even for a non-arrestable offense, as a way of securing his own safety. The officer has almost complete discretion and the driver is legally obligated to get out when asked. “He has control over the location of drivers,” Mr. Weisberg said. “It is equal to an officer patting you down to see if you have a gun.”
In this case, Mr. Weisberg said, there is no evidence that Trooper Encinia feared for his safety. He would have to argue that Ms. Bland’s refusal to put the cigarette out gave him the impression that she was violent. If Trooper Encinia had feared for his safety, he would not have walked away from the car for five minutes, Mr. Weisberg said.

Escalating Force

Trooper Encinia reaches into the car to remove Ms. Bland. Ms. Bland refuses to cooperate. He repeats “You are under arrest” and requests backup. After a struggle, Trooper Encinia pulls out a taser and yells, “I will light you up.” Ms. Bland exits the car.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/20/us/sandra-bland-arrest-death-videos-maps.html

 

[Hackman]

 
Politely?   Not without a court order.  
He pulls his weapon, the situation has deteriorated to the point where the officer is concerned for hos own safety.
 
Bland refused to comply and that officer at that moment has to consider (in a split second) whether she will or won't escalate the event.
 
 
Must be a female thang, Yo'

LOL "I'm a free inhabitant, and I don't have ta follow any laws". Rape!!!! Rape!!!! Jezus, what is it with nutty libtards? Don't they know what "comply" means?  I guess they like getting some pain compliance. I thought only blacks got arrested by white police? It's time to fire up the White Lives Matter protests.

 

[Ifly2]

"...and I don't have ta follow any laws".

No One Said That, Ever...

"I thought only blacks got arrested by white police?"

No One Said That Either, Ever...

"It's time to fire up the White Lives Matter protests."

Maybe when there is an unarmed white person shot by a black cop for no reason.

 

[KCFlyer]

LOL "I'm a free inhabitant, and I don't have ta follow any laws". Rape!!!! Rape!!!! Jezus, what is it with nutty libtards? Don't they know what "comply" means?  I guess they like getting some pain compliance. I thought only blacks got arrested by white police? It's time to fire up the White Lives Matter protests.

 
And yet another tard.  Is it possible for you to post without using the word "libtard" or libturd?   When the man comes to take your guns....will you comply? 

 

[Ms Tree]

LOL "I'm a free inhabitant, and I don't have ta follow any laws". Rape!!!! Rape!!!! Jezus, what is it with nutty libtards? Don't they know what "comply" means?  I guess they like getting some pain compliance. I thought only blacks got arrested by white police? It's time to fire up the White Lives Matter protests.

 
A fine example of another obedient conservative.  You should have a talk with Cliven Bundy and let him know your thoughts.

 

[Hackman]

"...and I don't have ta follow any laws".

No One Said That, Ever...

"I thought only blacks got arrested by white police?"

No One Said That Either, Ever...

"It's time to fire up the White Lives Matter protests."

Maybe when there is an unarmed white person shot by a black cop for no reason.

Wrong sweetykins. The outer space chicky In delldudes' cop vs libtard video, about 2:07 "I'm a free inhabitant which has all the rights as a US citizen without following any of their laws". What is a section 4 "free inhabitant? Is it in the Nancy Pelosi Commifornia book of codes? Maybe section 8?
 
Black Lives Matter protest imply that white police target black folk.  48% of police shooting deaths are white. Looks like the police are out for white blood.
 
Black cops never shoot anyone. Haven't you heard?

 

[Ifly2]

That means that approx 10% of the population hets about 52%'of the shooting by cop

That ain't quite proportional

No one said no black cop ever shot anyone

 

[Ifly2]

No one on here said it.

In any thing resembling a rational discussion

The free inhabitant bunch lives in the same fantasyland that the "income tax is illegal so I don't have to pay it" and "the Fed is illegal" bunch of tards.

 

[Hackman]

 
And yet another tard.  Is it possible for you to post without using the word "libtard" or libturd?   When the man comes to take your guns....will you comply? Boo

Boo hoo, snivel snivel. Here's a tissue, there, there sweetykins. Rednecks and pole smoker are ok because libtards like you say it. Got it.
 
Why would the Obammy man come for my guns? Gun owners have the Supreme Court ruling and the second amendment was upheld. Correct?
 
Is the Nobammy administration planning on becoming more like Adolf's Third Reich in 1939 and imposing his will to disarm Americans?  Seems very possible, he's gutting the military as we speak.
 
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens". Adolf Hitler