Rumors from local 514

[AANOTOK]

Has it been posted anywhere how much premiums are going up. For Value Option for my wife and I, we paid $324.38 a month in 2014. I think I've seen the deductible is going up $50.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Jetnet said average premium increases are $60 per month.  Deductibles are going up also.  This should surprise nobody as we have been giving back raises for a long time.  Of course we must remember that from 2008 to 2012 we didn't even get the raises in pay while AA jacked premiums up.  I wonder how the pilots and FAs got caps on their premiums way back when but the TWU couldn't get that even though they gave away so much more than any other union.  We also found out AA management was paying less for the same coverages that we were getting.  We were supposed to get more equity for that but when you figure in the 14% grabbed by the international we end up getting screwed again.  Need I remind you that we are paying for this kind of representation?

 

[dfw gen]

maybe people will start waking up.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

The report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics does not paint a very good picture. Projected rampant outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this statistic. 
 
I doubt the company cares when projected growth is only 2 percent over the next 10 years.
 
http://www.bls.gov/o...technicians.htm
http://www.bls.gov/o...cians.htm#tab-6
 
Job Outlook, 2012-22 2% (Little or no change) Employment Change, 2012-22 3,500
 

Unlike most sheep I don't depend on statistics...

 

Hmmm.

 
That is not a statistic, it is a best guess projection based on current trends. I would not expect your dumb ass to know the difference.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

That is not a statistic...I would not expect your dumb ass to know the difference.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics...
...outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this statistic.

Yeah. Ok.

What did we retrain you in again?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Yeah. Ok.

What did we retrain you in again?

...outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this statistic.
 
A reminder of why I have to watch every word I say around libtards. Libtards like to pick one word out of a sentence instead of an expressed idea and beat it to death.
 
That should have read
 
...outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this projection.
 

That is not a statistic, it is a best guess projection based on current trends. I would not expect your dumb ass to know the difference.

I stand by what I said.
 
Now go ahead and grind my one word error into the dirt instead of considering the intent of what I was saying.
 
Typical liberal.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

 A reminder of why I have to watch every word...
 
That should have read...
 
...I stand by what I said.
 

Let's see how many times he can reinvent this to suit what he wishes he would have said.

Wait, what?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Wait, what?

I did not change my statement. I clarified it because you are trying to twist my intent (typical libtard).
 
Nice try though.

 

[bigjets]

Jetnet said average premium increases are $60 per month.  Deductibles are going up also.  This should surprise nobody as we have been giving back raises for a long time.  Of course we must remember that from 2008 to 2012 we didn't even get the raises in pay while AA jacked premiums up.  I wonder how the pilots and FAs got caps on their premiums way back when but the TWU couldn't get that even though they gave away so much more than any other union.  We also found out AA management was paying less for the same coverages that we were getting.  We were supposed to get more equity for that but when you figure in the 14% grabbed by the international we end up getting screwed again.  Need I remind you that we are paying for this kind of representation?

Prior to bankruptcy, the APFA members paid half of what we paid for health insurance for the same coverage. To get back to the thread, what is local 514 telling it's members about the alliance?

 

[bigjets]

...outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this statistic.
 
A reminder of why I have to watch every word I say around libtards. Libtards like to pick one word out of a sentence instead of an expressed idea and beat it to death.
 
That should have read
 
...outsourcing to foreign countries is an obvious factor in this projection.
 

I stand by what I said.
 
Now go ahead and grind my one word error into the dirt instead of considering the intent of what I was saying.
 
Typical liberal.

http://oklahomawatch.org/2014/02/01/oklahoma-no-7-in-reliance-on-federal-funds/



The conservatives from OK, continuely support an industrial union. What a bunch of liberals.
The only difference between a democrat and a republican is, who is paying them off and even then they get paid by the same donors hedging their bets.

Obama is accused of everything Reagan actually did. Reagan pulled the Marines out of Beirut after they were attacked with no payback, gave amnesty to illegals, raised taxes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/

So what is local 514 telling it's members about getting an industry leading contract?

 

[Bob Owens]

Obama is accused of everything Reagan actually did. Reagan pulled the Marines out of Beirut after they were attacked with no payback, gave amnesty to illegals, raised taxes.

 

 
There was "payback", in response to Beirut we invaded Grenada, sure showed them. Then with Bush II in response to the Saudi funded terrorist attacks on the US we invaded a country that was also the enemy of AlQueda, Iraq.  
 
To be fair the top saw huge tax cuts under Reagan, the majority simply had to fund those cuts by paying more.  Remember when we used to be able to write off medical expenses, car loans, student loans etc etc? We lost all that so the richest Americans and the corporations they owned could pay less. We had to fund "their" American dream of being Kings.  

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

The conservatives from OK, continuely support an industrial union.

Most conservatives don't support UNIONS.
 

http://oklahomawatch.org/2014/02/01/oklahoma-no-7-in-reliance-on-federal-funds/

Farming subsidies.
 
This graph only shows how much the states receive, I would like to see it adjusted for how much they pay per capita. 

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

 

[iluvaa]

Hey D-Bags take it to the water cooler this is about rumors in Tulsa not your political B.S.

 

[swamt]

Ok back to the rumors.  Why hasn't local 514 shown any support with 591 and Peterson's letters to the NMB about the SCAM this alliance is trying to pull off right now?   If anything they should have put out a letter of support or a letter against everything he wrote to the NMB, BUT, nobody has done anything,  wonder why that is?  Hmmmmmm...