RECALL of Council 70 President! Merged Topics

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Listen to yourself. You seem a bit touchy. Never said I was a big fan of the Pres. but now we know why the VP started this. To me it seems as though the VP is also trying to cover herself. Seems as though she does not like the idea of having to go out on line and fly her time. Also seems that the A330boy does not like the thought. Wonder if he plans on picking up enough ETB time to get 135 hours a month......

HA without the FPL he will have to fly Every day he has off to even get close to 135! Hope he has fun!

 

[aredeeyou22]

Listen to yourself. You seem a bit touchy. Never said I was a big fan of the Pres. but now we know why the VP started this. To me it seems as though the VP is also trying to cover herself. Seems as though she does not like the idea of having to go out on line and fly her time. Also seems that the A330boy does not like the thought. Wonder if he plans on picking up enough ETB time to get 135 hours a month......guess is now the same as the rest of us trying to make it on reserve.

Love, and aladdintrays,

You just don't get it, and since I don't think you ever will, I'll let it rest. You got your boy back on the line making 73 hours just like you, so instead of him doing "nothing" at the union, he is now on the line once again, doing nothing like the rest of us. If the recall goes thru, I for one hope to see him right back where he was, where he belongs. He has an unbelievable knowledge of the contract, and devotes his time and efforts to AFA70. Hope you don't need the services of the union in the future.

Thank you.

 

[700UW]

Nothing stops him from voluntering his time when not flying.

 

[Lovethesun]

Exactly! I don't understand where lovethesun and others got the idea that the RSV chair was sitting around in a swivel chair, relaxing at AFA70 and collecting 105 hours or whatever plus etb doing absolutely nothing. If he is gone, it will be bad for reserves. Especially for the 165 reserves that just returned and probably appreciate having him to answer questions, interpret the contract, etc.... Thank you.

How on earth did PHL survive without him!?

 

[PITbull]

Love,

Now you are a fan of the LECP? You are all over the map! She is just covering her a** since she found out about the recall. It's a panicked, knee- jerk response. What would you do if you were being recalled?

Quoting Pitbull:
When is the last time you sent a local E-line to your members?? Go look. The only one writing is the appointed reserve chair that you now want to get rid of. How about letting your members know what's being discussed with the transition agreement and what you as a local president is looking for?

I think if the members talk to these other officers, they'll get an entirely different view.
Exactly! I don't understand where lovethesun and others got the idea that the RSV chair was sitting around in a swivel chair, relaxing at AFA70 and collecting 105 hours or whatever plus etb doing absolutely nothing. If he is gone, it will be bad for reserves. Especially for the 165 reserves that just returned and probably appreciate having him to answer questions, interpret the contract, etc.... The LECP is in panic mode, nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you.

Just from my own experience the last two years, I would support Andy Perkins and/or Celine Deluca (f/a displaced from PIT 18 year reserve). I don't know if these folks would ever be interested in running in PHL, but they are very strong, intelligent defenders of the contract. I've seen them in action, when they speak, the MEC listens, and so does scheduling. I know I listened and acted. These folks do their homework. They don't cite problems unless they can back it up with investigation and evidence. That is how the union is able to respond....evidence of violations. Otherwise, it's not a grievance, but a gripe.

Celine was the best reserve chair PIT had, and she knows that contract inside out from reserve to lineholder. She has tenacity, articulate, committed and so focused on defending the language in the contract.

Just my opinion of up and coming leaders in the ranks who have talent and can develop skill sets very quickly. I am sure Mike F. and gang need to worry about some of these folks who are so much focused then they.

No matter who gets in office, the members NEED folks who are in the office working for the f/as daily specifically PHL which is the biggest base at U. If the company is going to sneak something in through "policy" circumventing the langugage, they do it through PHL FIRST. You have to "nip it" quickly by challenging managment immediately all the way up the ladder when indicated. If the reps are too busy trying to pick ETB trips and flying, they will miss it, and then the company has an "in" as saying its been past practice and ususally cite PHL.

This was my experience with PHL. I always had to watch what the hell the supervisors were trying to get away with, cause if it happens in PHL, unnoticed by the union, it becomes past practice provision.

The PHL Officers have to be on top of everything at ALL times, listening to what the members are reporting and investigating quickly. That's what the members pay the union to do, not to max out ETB time where they then don't have the consistent energy to do union work needed.

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Love, and aladdintrays,

You just don't get it, and since I don't think you ever will, I'll let it rest. You got your boy back on the line making 73 hours just like you, so instead of him doing "nothing" at the union, he is now on the line once again, doing nothing like the rest of us. If the recall goes thru, I for one hope to see him right back where he was, where he belongs. He has an unbelievable knowledge of the contract, and devotes his time and efforts to AFA70. Hope you don't need the services of the union in the future.

Thank you.

I could care less about his "talents" if he was using his position for his own gain...then he should be OUT! I just don't understand how anyone could think differently. And if you read the E-Line, it backs up the research I spoke of last month about the Reserve Chairs days off and ETB. So looks as if what he was doing, was not what he was supposed to be doing!

 

[aredeeyou22]

I could care less about his "talents" if he was using his position for his own gain...then he should be OUT! I just don't understand how anyone could think differently. And if you read the E-Line, it backs up the research I spoke of last month about the Reserve Chairs days off and ETB. So looks as if what he was doing, was not what he was supposed to be doing!

Uhh, I believe the accusor (LECP) is being questoned about her ETB trysts as well. remember who the e-line was written by. Also, I cannot remember the last time I received an E-Line from the LECP, let alone laid eyes on her. Take it with a grain of salt.... LECP is panicking.....

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Uhh, I believe the accusor (LECP) is being questoned about her ETB trysts as well. remember who the e-line was written by. Also, I cannot remember the last time I received an E-Line from the LECP, let alone laid eyes on her. Take it with a grain of salt.... LECP is panicking.....

Then as I have said before...let's just start over in PHL!

 

[aredeeyou22]

Then as I have said before...let's just start over in PHL!

Makes lotsa sense....Lets go!

 

[IMisstheAladdinTrays]

Makes lotsa sense....Lets go!

Glad we agree on that!

 

[Lovethesun]

The key word here is "Volunteer" versus getting Paid!!

Wonder is Michael would just volunteer his time. Does anyone know if any of the other committee's members receive 105 hours from the union for their work?

 

[aredeeyou22]

In regards to the LECP's Eline today, it just seems strange to me that all of a sudden she finds all of this "unethical" conduct in the union office, just as her recall begins. Where has she been? She claims in the Eline she had NO IDEA that the RSV chair was flying ETB trips against her rules.. Please, we are not idiots here...

Her new schedule is now going to be M-TH, when previously we had the RSV chair and the LECVP there M-F? How is that an improvement? She is going to try and find "part time help" to answer the phones and defend FA's in the Supervisor's office? Oh this sounds like a stellar idea! This woman is totally out to lunch, and out of touch. Unreal....

 

[BajaBabe]

In regards to the LECP's Eline today, it just seems strange to me that all of a sudden she finds all of this "unethical" conduct in the union office, just as her recall begins. Where has she been? She claims in the Eline she had NO IDEA that the RSV chair was flying ETB trips against her rules.. Please, we are not idiots here...

Her new schedule is now going to be M-TH, when previously we had the RSV chair and the LECVP there M-F? How is that an improvement? She is going to try and find "part time help" to answer the phones and defend FA's in the Supervisor's office? Oh this sounds like a stellar idea! This woman is totally out to lunch, and out of touch. Unreal....

 

[Lovethesun]

In regards to the LECP's Eline today, it just seems strange to me that all of a sudden she finds all of this "unethical" conduct in the union office, just as her recall begins. Where has she been? She claims in the Eline she had NO IDEA that the RSV chair was flying ETB trips against her rules.. Please, we are not idiots here...

Her new schedule is now going to be M-TH, when previously we had the RSV chair and the LECVP there M-F? How is that an improvement? She is going to try and find "part time help" to answer the phones and defend FA's in the Supervisor's office? Oh this sounds like a stellar idea! This woman is totally out to lunch, and out of touch. Unreal....

Unethical conduct!!!!!!!! Do not want the RSV nor the VP their when their conduct has been unethical. We need representives who are not in this for monetary gains, but for representing the flight attendants. So would like to hear more from PITBULL on the two people that she was speaking of. So PITBULL please tell us more. Also what needs to be done for the flight attendant group to get together a recall on the VP in the office too? Lets get this ball rolling and bring in some new blood.

 

[BajaBabe]

There will never be anything to make my voice be heard but before you all call me futher names the biggest FOOL is me for believing that this woman had the slightest interest in defending flight attendants. I may GO down but not without her carnige. I have always fought for the rights of the flight attendants and the signatures 250 and counting will speak to that. The truth on a more Global Picture is that..... MF wants to be MEC of both America West and USAirways a total big daddy as he calls himself to Laura BIG MAMA so while you all are out there be aware of what she is spinning I am locked out of the office Thank God and Life will go on.Will I support just anyone Teddy thinks can do the job Wrong..........

............You all be careful what you wish for I am more than prepared to show my paystubs .......they are sooooooofar from 165,168, 163..............tata