RECALL of Council 70 President! Merged Topics

[N965VJ]

Actually, it is you, the average FA, who, demanding communication skills, by the fact you cannot even pick up a telephone and call to find out what is going on, demonstrates your complete incompetence to be a human. Not that that seems to be a precondition to being a FA at USAirways. In fact, I bet management just loves marginal trainees like you. Take pockshots from the gallery yet never engage in the actual action. I bet that after a video game of shoot'em and war, while smoking your cigarette you just love to send your neighbors kids to Iraq. Go get 'em, killer! You can smother them with your folds of fat.

I’ve been cross-slapped!

 

[Lovethesun]

Insults and Profanity deleted by moderator.

Mod comment: Avoid future insults or it will be a vacation to the cornfield for a few days.

oops, yes sir

 

[sharktooth]

I am sure that this thread will close if the posters continue with name calling.

It is easy to get emotional, but try to stick to the topic when posting B) and leave the side remarks...as a PM.

With "Lovethesun" did I hit a nerve? Sorry. Hey, if the comments fit, take a breather.

I am certain PitBull would agree, communicating at the union level can be pretty pathetic, though not nearly as bad as with the company.

When I was active in the union, I forced myself to call, at least once a week, someone (different each week) I knew disagreed with me. I tried to listen to them, for as long as they wanted, a minute to literally hours. I took copious notes. It was the hardest thing I could think of to do, but, whether they agreed with me or not, they at least knew where I was coming from. They had a voice and were welcome to change my viewpoints. Heck, I'd have loved to have just slid through life on their opinions, not having to engage our minds. Curse my mum (just a metaphor), I'm not like that, however.

Lately, I've seen a lot of that, just sliding through life without a thought as to where you are going. A bright spot is the NWA attendants.

If you wish to see a version of your future, read, "Take This Job And Ship It" by Senator Byron L. Dorgan. If you think you are immune from outsourcing with your crewmember job, think again. You are about to be replaced. (Fight deck crewmembers are also not immune.) You need a strong union, willing to go to the mat for everyone and not just "the good ole' boys/girls". You need an engaged group, a group that can balance the needs of the reserve against others. You need supervisors who were actually practiced at the job they supervise. You should demand a middle management that views the end-user employee as an asset and not a liability. That would make a major change (cut) in your cost structure. (Watch A&E's airline to see how SWA gets by with minimal middle management. If you don't get it, call me.)

This airline should have tremendous upside. The fact that upside has not been taken advantage of is indicative of the direction your misguided directors are going. In an upswing economy, that will be suicide.

I like my drink with extra ice and a lime Ed, just a not from those who pay your salary.

When you sober up, I'll happily engage you. 'til then, ta ta!

 

[BajaBabe]

Please keep this thread to the real issue one step at a time insults and name calling have no place here it just further divides and illiustrates our need to verbally abuse one another. Sign the RECALL and let this process follow according to the Constitution and Bylaws. If you can not help don't injure others. We are in a crisis please stay on subject

 

[Lovethesun]

With "Lovethesun" did I hit a nerve? Sorry. Hey, if the comments fit, take a breather.




Sharktooth, the comments that you made in post #245 "it is you the average F/A who demanding communication skills demonstrates your complete incompetence to be a human" applies to yourself if you will look at all the postings that you have placed. Unfortunately one of the words that I called you was nothing more than one that I would have said to your face if you had made this comment to me online and I am know that you have been called this name in the past and probably in the future too.

Now that aside this comment that you made "You need a strong union, willing to go to the mat for everyone and not just "the good ole' boys/girls". You need an engaged group, a group that can balance the needs of the reserve against others. You need supervisors who were actually practiced at the job they supervise. You should demand a middle management that views the end-user employee as an asset and not a liability." was one that I definitely agree with.

T.G. should not depend nor trust M.E. he is not her friend nor someone she should be allied with. If she does keep her alliance with him she will remember these words later.

 

[BajaBabe]

I was watching an interview with Putnin the President of Russia I guess that is what he is called . He was being interviewed by an American correspondent They asked him who do you trust ? He said no one !!!! Ditto

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> Please keep this thread to the real issue one step at a time insults and name calling have no place here it just further divides and illiustrates our need to verbally abuse one another.

Sure.

 

[Lovethesun]

I was watching an interview with Putnin the President of Russia I guess that is what he is called . He was being interviewed by an American correspondent They asked him who do you trust ? He said no one !!!! Ditto

Good I am glad to hear that!

 

[airportman]

Please keep this thread to the real issue one step at a time insults and name calling have no place here it just further divides and illiustrates our need to verbally abuse one another. Sign the RECALL and let this process follow according to the Constitution and Bylaws. If you can not help don't injure others. We are in a crisis please stay on subject

THIS SEEMS TO BE A POT AND KETTLE ISSUE.

 

[beachboy]

View attachment 5098
This sums up the outcome of the LA rein in Philly:

Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall
All of Flores horses and All Flores men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

 

[proudf/a]

View attachment 5098
This sums up the outcome of the LA rein in Philly:

Humpty-Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty-Dumpty had a great fall
All of Flores horses and All Flores men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

This is Laugh Out Loud funny!

 

[Career Reserve]

I was watching an interview with Putnin the President of Russia I guess that is what he is called . He was being interviewed by an American correspondent They asked him who do you trust ? He said no one !!!! Ditto

You might try using a little more discernment on whom you let into your inner circle.

 

[aredeeyou22]

Terry, as PHL LEC VP is the only member in base who is trying to solicit names to have the International call a Special Meeting of the membership. She needs 30% of the names and signatures of active members in base to fullfill the Constitution and provide the members a special meeting.

To accomplish this is quite an endeavor. You should give her that much credit for taking HER time to sit at the airport, get the signatures so that your voices can he heard. It is NOT up to the International. Even if charges against Laura stick, only the members of the base can recall her. You need a "special meeting" to do so.

I haven't seen one other person, or heard of anyone else doing this but her. You folks on this board complain a lot about your representation, but none of you have taken any action to assist her,or do it on your own if its really a major concern. Laura was voted in last year by a mere 287 total votes. There were over 2,200 active members in that base, if you can imagine. Who is to blame here?

To date, Laura has not retracted her statement in her E-line where she insediously snuck in that she received permission to add her vacation to her 105 International flight time in July of 2005. Basically, she is saying that the (then) MECP gave her permission to not only take the vacation pay from union dues $$ of her base, but allowed her to violate the contract and "over fly" and exceed company paid time. The conversation NEVER ocurred between the MECP of 2005 and this LECP. The permission to get paid out vacation or bank it comes only from the AFA International Sec/Treas for extenuating circumstances. She submitted the 105 International pay that month on her own, and of course, the company paid out the vacation that was scheduled in the computer. The MECP does not control the LECPs flight pay loss submission, or their vacation. The LECP submit their pay sheets for all the officers and volunteers in their respective bases to the MEC Sec/Treas and it is then submitted to the company.

The most odd thing about her implication is that she was attempting a "recall" of the MECP that she claims she had this "so called" discussion with since as early as June of 2005, while trying her darndest to muster support from the entire MEC. Where she got the delusion that the MECP would have a private conversation with her on "over flying" and being cmpensated over and beyond 105 International pay that July, is beyond comprehension. She must have figured no one would actually notice and skim over it in her E-line...certainly not the ex MECP. As simple as this issue may seem, its the most recent example of her exaggerations and "control" she is capable of...rather than simply stating the truth; not placing blame on someone else.

Ultimately, its the LECP who is responsible for the representation of the base. If by majority, you are not happy and your faith has deminished, the blame sits at her door.

Finally! I was wondering when Pitbull was going to come around and at LEAST say LECVP was doing the right thing! Now all of you Pitbull lapdogs (you know who you are) read this above post from Pitbull again!

Thank you, Pitbull!
'nuff said....

 

[PITbull]

Finally! I was wondering when Pitbull was going to come around and at LEAST say LECVP was doing the right thing! Now all of you Pitbull lapdogs (you know who you are) read this above post from Pitbull again!

Thank you, Pitbull!
'nuff said....

I am only weighing in my opinion on what I believe is the "greater good" for the group and the MEC.

Make no mistake...I'm not in anyone's camp.

 

[PHL BULL]

I am only weighing in my opinion on what I believe is the "greater good" for the group and the MEC.

Make no mistake...I'm not in anyone's camp.

Got my recall sheet yesterday...I have a lot of F/A's that have signed...will collect more by months end...just doing my part for the good of the group and the MEC