rally and picket at DOJ with all unions and employees

[700UW]

Delta also went back on their word and cut jobs in MSP and had to pay the state back on incentives after the merger.

 

[Phoenix]

If US understood antitrust laws, they would have stopped their Advantage Fare program long before the merger attempt and slowed their capacity. Of course their costs would have gone up and their profits probably would have gone down...

So you argue US should have made themselves less competitive to get the DOJ to allow them to merge.

You are a riot of contradictory verbal flatulence.

 

[freedom]

One thing that is quite sad about the situation we now find ourselves in as far as fleet service goes ....

When this merger was announced our companies management rushed over and cut deals with the AA fleet service workers , meanwhile ignoring our own work force who are still in contract negotiations ....

Even a token promise of say a 2% cost of living increase for the US workforce upon completion of this merger might have been enough to garner far more support from the US workers in favor of this merger ...

and so here we are today , some of us advocating for this and many who simply either don't care or don't want to help the company at all ...I blame this lack of apathy squarely on our company's leadership ... you should not have ignored the workforce that made this company profitable ...

I still think we absolutely need this merger , i'm just pissed about how much harder it is to drum up support for it due to short sightedness .

 

[mike33]

One thing that is quite sad about the situation we now find ourselves in as far as fleet service goes ....

When this merger was announced our companies management rushed over and cut deals with the AA fleet service workers , meanwhile ignoring our own work force who are still in contract negotiations ....

Even a token promise of say a 2% cost of living increase for the US workforce upon completion of this merger might have been enough to garner far more support from the US workers in favor of this merger ...

and so here we are today , some of us advocating for this and many who simply either don't care or don't want to help the company at all ...I blame this lack of apathy squarely on our company's leadership ... you should not have ignored the workforce that made this company profitable ...

I still think we absolutely need this merger , i'm just pissed about how much harder it is to drum up support for it due to short sightedness .

So what are you going to do about it " Chicken Little"?

The apa got something... so they are involved
The Flt Att got something ...so they are involved
The twu at AA got something...Not sure of their involvement %
The Cwa/Ibt got back something negotiated before the Announcement ( seems now that the company wanted vendors the whole time)
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Fleet service Got ? ? ? Nada ...nothing...zilch ! Stop kissing arse and stand together!

 

[freedom]

i'm not kissing arse , it is in the best interest of fleet service workers to be part of AA ....

Maybe if times were better and the entire economy didn't feel like it was ready to drop I could see your point of view , but I see things very differently , so much so that this merger is a necessity .

 

[mike33]

i'm not kissing arse , it is in the best interest of fleet service workers to be part of AA ....

Maybe if times were better and the entire economy didn't feel like it was ready to drop I could see your point of view , but I see things very differently , so much so that this merger is a necessity .

You are a kiss arse......it is in the best interest of Fleet service to be rewarded for service rendered over the yrs. The 50$ is a suckers payment. Nothing else matters until the company negotiates fairly.............PERIOD !!!!

You think Lock and Load is with water Pistols !!!!

 

[robbedagain]

freedum its in the best interest of all us on this board if you go back and learn things you might actually become smart... then again that might not be a brilliant thing either!!!!

you can go ahead and picket all you want but i highly doubt that youll get hardly anyone from fsa to support you in the picket protest... contracts first nothing else.. get it freedum

 

[freedom]

well first that 50 dollars is more like 35 after taxes , so yeah as many others have said it's not much of an incentive ... to be honest most of us don't need a 35 dollar incentive to do our jobs professionally ...

As to what you and Robbed are saying .. I guess we just have a fundamentally different world view ... i'm just a simple baggage handler , not really that educated ...but in my vastly different world view I see an economy supported by Quatnative Easing , I see a nation of growing wage salves ( as living wage jobs are reduced to min wage jobs and part time work grows ) ...I see demographics working against housing , and I see a wealth effect (when people FEEL rich) supported by low interest rates on home loans that cannot go on forever and a pumped up stock market ...

I see a global economy that is completely imbalanced from a European Union with breathtaking unemployment rates in the PIIGS, which are still to this day unsure if they truly want to go all in on a REAL monetary union (like how it is here in the states ) or if they want to split apart ..

you look at India the most populous country on earth with a shrinking growth rate and a falling rupe , and I see Japan the most indebted country on earth that is "Guaranteed" to go bankrupt ...

I see all these things and I think to myself ... wow it's a scary world out there Financially , a merger would mean more political power , greater route structure , more job security ..

 

[robbedagain]

and you dont see china with all the debt theyre having from taking on the world debt? as a fsa for all the sacrafices i and countless others have made over the last 10 yrs to save usairways arse i along with many others want what we lost.. its your good ole boy dougie drunken donkey parker has absolute no intentions on giving us crap they still want to take take take.. how much more do you want them to take... we keep getting raped by these same arse donkeys you want and love and adore screw them... enough is enough contracts protection of the stations we have and more now not later screw the merger a merger does not guarantee sh!t thats a fact. the only thing a merger guarantees is 6 digit figures for the donkeys running the companies and the charcoal holders who demand the return for it all... if this merger fails us can and will continue to survive and we still be stuck at the sh!tty wages we are at and if drunken donkey parker could do he have just 2 agents per plane imagine the cost savings heck if he could he have all of the employees on welfare and state health insurance as well as the obama care thingy too he all about cost savings which translates to screw the employees and give the charcoals and themselves dough dough enough is enough

 

[freedom]

I have to take exception with what you've said Robbed ... I call them like I see them ...I agree that fleet service has valid grievances with this company but I think your slandering of the CEO is out of line ..

Doug parker is known for giving TONS of money to his church and the local community , and surprisingly he doesn't toot his own horn about the giving ....

I think he DOES care about his own workers and he's shown a real corporate commitment to the local communities where US airways flies , there are so many different programs this company does to help people that I can't even remember all of them ...What's the latest one with the dogs for the blind that we're shipping across country on our carrier ...and then there's that North pole program for the poor kids where we transform one of the gates at Christmas time , food drives , the angle drive for toys ....

I can understand that your very angry ,I know you've had to move at least twice because of station closings ..but we are a company that exists within a capitalist system ...There are gains and there are losses , this company cannot give in to every demand of it's work force or else it would run the risk of turning into the Detroit auto workers , there's a balance ...I try not to take things too personally ,but I have to admit that if I had been forced to move not once but twice I would be pretty damn bitter ..

I don't know what to tell you , but I will say this , I don't Doug Parker is a bad person , I think he means well and he does the best he can .

 

[rockit2]

i'm not kissing arse , it is in the best interest of fleet service workers to be part of AA ....

Maybe if times were better and the entire economy didn't feel like it was ready to drop I could see your point of view , but I see things very differently , so much so that this merger is a necessity .

If you are working in PHX, it is not in your best interest to merge.

 

[freedom]

If you are working in PHX, it is not in your best interest to merge.

and what's the alternative , seeing the doors close someday , is that the better choice ?

 

[Phoenix]

and what's the alternative , seeing the doors close someday , is that the better choice ?

If just 20% of motivated, cheerleading, rah rah employees would agree to work for free then I bet the company would never have to shut the doors.

But then the sky is always falling for some folks I guess, no matter what.

 

[cltrat]

If just 20% of motivated, cheerleading, rah rah employees would agree to work for free then I bet the company would never have to shut the doors.

But then the sky is always falling for some folks I guess, no matter what.

Phoenix I don't know how much you have read him over the years but his prediction record on economic issues is similar to some you see in the pilot thread.

 

[signals]

i'm not kissing arse

I think your slandering of the CEO is out of line ..

Doug parker is known for giving TONS of money to his church and the local community , and surprisingly he doesn't toot his own horn about the giving ....

I think he DOES care about his own workers and he's shown a real corporate commitment to the local communities where US airways flies , there are so many different programs this company does to help people that I can't even remember all of them ...What's the latest one with the dogs for the blind that we're shipping across country on our carrier ...and then there's that North pole program for the poor kids where we transform one of the gates at Christmas time , food drives , the angle drive for toys ....

I can understand that your very angry ,I know you've had to move at least twice because of station closings ..but we are a company that exists within a capitalist system ...There are gains and there are losses , this company cannot give in to every demand of it's work force or else it would run the risk of turning into the Detroit auto workers , there's a balance ...I try not to take things too personally ,but I have to admit that if I had been forced to move not once but twice I would be pretty damn bitter ..

I don't know what to tell you , but I will say this , I don't Doug Parker is a bad person , I think he means well and he does the best he can .