New NonRev policy annouced

[snapthis]

many at AA did not any part of usair either. We are stuck with each other. We have to learn how to live with each other for now. HELLO NEIGHBOR........

Glad to have AA and FCFS.

Later, airways.......not going to miss ya.

 

[Bogey]

This is bull , why is everything being done the AA  way ? Aren't they the losers who lost 10 billion in the past 10 years ? The US employees are being treated like dirt , they want to get rid of us, In this business all you really have is your seniority and they are taking that away from us , the war has just begun !

The war is over... We all lost! Now put on your big boy pants like the rest of us and just move along.

 

[Bogey]

Or anything else

The pilots of AA and the APA has a reputation that precedes itself, and US pilots still got in bed with them. I just don't get it.

 

[Claxon]

How does this non rev policy apply when flying on an American Eagle regional?

 

[im back..!!]

Good luck with that. I don't see the AA pilots giving up date of hire for the jump seat.

so, unless your the number one guy out of 15,000ish..... you really dont know when your getting to work, do you?

 

[im back..!!]

ok, just to clearify....
 
i sometimes commute from florida. so the flights are booked full all day approximately a week prior to departure.
 
are you saying I (as a pilot) just need to pick the most convient flight that gets me to work on time and within my faa limits, and then call pilot scheduling and say...
 
please give me a positive space seat, since the flight is booked and has been and always will be long before now?
 
really? ... wow, ...nice.....

 

[PHXConx]

If you had some time you would complain , none of us wanted to merge with these bunch of losers !
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now you know how America West Employees felt... 

 

[nycbusdriver]

Good luck with that. I don't see the AA pilots giving up date of hire for the jump seat.

 
With a hire date of 1979, I am all in favor of DOH for jumpseat.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Knock me over with a feather. I wonder if the rank and file AA pilots know this yet.

 
Actually, it's a really good way to do it.  It certainly takes the guess-work out of the equation.  You either have the jumpseat, or you make other arrangements...and you know it as much as 7 days in advance of the flight.
 
I'm surprised that the AA pilots went for it.  I would have been very happy with a DOH system for selfish reasons.  But I have been quite content with this (or similar) reservation system since (original) Piedmont days.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I understand the APA jump seat committee agree. Did management?

 
Management, known as Doug Parker and Scott Kirby, will be fine with the jumpseat policy decision.  They have lived comfortably with it for about 8 years.  They may wish to change the policy of the primary jumpseat rider getting that seat regardless of load restrictions.  IOW, if weight is restricted, one jumpseat rider goes even before revenue.  The Tempe Brain Trust may very well seek to change that.

 

[nycbusdriver]

What? No Nicolau jumpseat?

 
Well, come on, Claxon.  The west pilots were collectively and individually responsible for saving US Airways from oblivion (just ask them.)  And now, since US Airways is saving AA from oblivion, then logically the west pilots are to be honored as the saviors of AA, too (just ask them.)
 
I heard the call sign is going to be "Cactus."  (Or is it "cat piss"?)

 

[bob@las-AA]

 
With a hire date of 1979, I am all in favor of DOH for jumpseat.

Why are you on this board?? 

 

[bob@las-AA]

How does this non rev policy apply when flying on an American Eagle regional?

Same rules! If your dead heading on your own airline, you get on, if your NR you hope for the best! 

 

[lpbrian]

Jumpseat riders are removed in an overweight situation unless they are pos space

 

[Justme]

To Justme:
 
Actually, I spent 16 years in the Information Technology Department at Texaco, and was often called upon to teach programming and systems analysis courses because "they liked the way I could explain complicated concepts in a simple way."  I even taught a course for two years in the Graduate School of Management at Rice University (on loan from Texaco) on Business Systems Analysis and Design.
 
No charge for teaching you how to use RES, but if you ask just one time, "Why is that code used for that purpose?",  the class is over and you will be cast into outer darkness without hope of redemption.  The codes in RES are almost totally NON-intuitive.  For instance to look at the Standby list (which includes the nonrevs) the string of code ends in PALL.  Do NOT ask why PALL means standby list.  It just does.  Nor, have I met anyone in the past 12 years who knows.  And, the standby lists Oversolds (either this flight or rolled over from previous flights) first, then Upgrade Requests (Upgrade requests have their own priority system--Executive Platinums or company bigwigs are usually UPG1, the highest.  These people may already have seats assigned in coach; so, this info can be useful);  then non-revs listed in D1 through D3 order and by checkin time within a category.  However, the standby list does not display check-in times.  You just have to have faith that everyone is playing by the rules  including the computer.  I have heard stories of agents "jiggling the Standby List" to rearrange the order of the names, but I've never seen proof that it happened.

Prof. Jim,
 
Am I past the drop/add period?  My brain hurts  ...