Negotiations........why?

[ATD]

No concessions, they will just do like when comparing to SWA. If you want A contract that looks like Delta then AA will want to mirror their scope also. I think we have about 16 mechanics per a/c what does delta have.

 

[700UW]

DL has no scope, they are employees at will.

And they outsource all overhaul except for some c-checks.

 

[Vortilon]

No concessions, they will just do like when comparing to SWA. If you want A contract that looks like Delta then AA will want to mirror their scope also. I think we have about 16 mechanics per a/c what does delta have.

 
There it is, let's save jobs (I mean dues payers) (temporarily) for money and benefits BS.  Hell, that didn't take long at all.  I am sure if you surveyed AAs AMTs, they would be more than happy to remain the lowest paid in the industry so the TWU could claim the highest amount of "maintenance workers" represented....not!

 

[Albert]

If the goal post for DL to dole out PS has been raised to an almost ridiculous metric to be reached then why are we still going to expect Parker to stand with the DL + 7%?

I'm thinking (maybe) that 7% call could be lowered to 3% above?

Better keep a keen eye on the work rules and other things in the middle of our future TA when it comes out?

Yes I'm suspicious?

They are going to say want DL money  we need DL work rules. This really does change things though ....will see

 

[700UW]

DL has no work rules, they are non-union employees at will.

 

[767 mechanic]

Get ready the axe is about to fall. This a monkey see monkey do industry. Lets see bankruptcy,pensions, and work rules. Oh yes o/h will get chopped in some form or another. The way that I am looking at it is that it might not happen right away but the language will be in place to do this in the future. Have I forgotten anything? 

 

[Vortilon]

DL has no work rules, they are non-union employees at will.

 
It's not about Delta being non-union.  These industry pay & benefits offerings, have been leapfrogging one another since time immemorial.  So here you are with the not so veiled scare tactics......priceless..  Yet predictable...  Commie much?

 

[Albert]

DL has no work rules, they are non-union employees at will.

 You're grasping at straws now it's kind of pathetic

 

[700UW]

How is it grasping at straws?

They have zero scope language, their medical is horrible.

They outsource all airframe overhaul.

The ramp has 40% ready reserve who make $12 an hour with no benefits.

Large stations like CLT, MIA, and RDU are all outsourced.

DL brought 12 stations to the merger the IAM represented ramp brought 40, DL had 43 ramp stations the new AA has 50.

The cut their profit sharing by 33% two years ago.

Shall I go on?

 

[DallasConehead]

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[Albert]

How is it grasping at straws?

They have zero scope language, their medical is horrible.

They outsource all airframe overhaul.

The ramp has 40% ready reserve who make $12 an hour with no benefits.

Large stations like CLT, MIA, and RDU are all outsourced.

DL brought 12 stations to the merger the IAM represented ramp brought 40, DL had 43 ramp stations the new AA has 50.

The cut their profit sharing by 33% two years ago.

Shall I go on?

You can go on all you want and a could give you an equal list here  at  IAM US. I'm in the same building  as DL and they are just like any other airline they have their good  and their bad but in Dec they will be getting payed higher. in fact right now, i'll bet DL employees are a lot happier that your union brothers at UAL

 

[DallasConehead]

DL has no work rules, they are non-union employees at will.

Man o man,,, I wish we were a non union shop....
 
Work rules are over rated, right now the company does what it wants when it wants and the impotent 591 and int guys cant stop it.

 

[WeAAsles]

You can go on all you want and a could give you an equal list here  at  IAM US. I'm in the same building  as DL and they are just like any other airline they have their good  and their bad but in Dec they will be getting payed higher. in fact right now, i'll bet DL employees are a lot happier that your union brothers at UAL

If you go work for Delta you better be clean cut and have your shirt tucked in. Spit shine those shoes too while you're at it.

Albert trust me. I've talked to quite a few Delta rampers. You don't want to wear their shoes.

 

[Albert]

If you go work for Delta you better be clean cut and have your shirt tucked in. Spit shine those shoes too while you're at it.

Albert trust me. I've talked to quite a few Delta rampers. You don't want to wear their shoes.

Yes i  prefer a more relaxed  enviroment (sometimes) but  requiring me to be clean cut is not going to make me sign a card. I also like the way DL gets rid of  the dirt bags. We are in the same bagroom as DL here at LGA  so I know a few myself. Now do you think with todays anouncement  the company will drag their feet in negotiations after all we have a contract until 2017

 

[WeAAsles]

Yes i  prefer a more relaxed  enviroment (sometimes) but  requiring me to be clean cut is not going to make me sign a card. I also like the way DL gets rid of  the dirt bags. We are in the same bagroom as DL here at LGA  so I know a few myself. Now do you think with todays anouncement  the company will drag their feet in negotiations after all we have a contract until 2017

And what if someone thought YOU were the dirt bag and decided to get rid of YOU.

Always amazes me how we all think we're the best workers under the aun even if maybe others don't feel the same.

And on your drag their feet comment........... No.