Machinists Union Merger Update

[B737 MECHANIC]

OUTSOURCING IS A SAD FACT OF LIFE THESE DAYS AND NO MATTER WHICH UNION WINS THE HEAVY CHECKS WILL GO SOME PLACE ELSE

 

[700UW]

First of all there has to be an election. The current IAM contract will remain in effect either way.

But why are you dodging the issues?

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

First of all there has to be an election. The current IAM contract will remain in effect either way.

But why are you dodging the issues?

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WHAT ISSUE AM I DODGING

 

[700UW]

the weak scope language of the IBT contract and HP outsourcing all heavy maintenance.

 

[delldude]

the weak scope language of the IBT contract and HP outsourcing all heavy maintenance.

[post="306519"][/post]​

ooo shotz fired....

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

the weak scope language of the IBT contract and HP outsourcing all heavy maintenance.

[post="306519"][/post]​

SO YOU THINK IAM HAS OR WILL DO BETTER I KNOW TEAMSTER CONTRACT IS PERFECT THAT I WILL ADMIT AND I HAVENT HAD MUCH TIME TO STUDY YOUR AWSOME CONTRACT BUT IT STICKS I MY MIND THE SICK DAY ISSUE, I MEAN REALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE GET HOSPITALIZE WHEN CALLING IN SICK AND HOW MANY YEARS DO YOU HAVE TO WORK TO GET 3 WEEKS VACATION

 

[tahitigirl]

Please turn your caps off. It's hard read all caps. Thanks.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

Please turn your caps off. It's hard read all caps. Thanks.

[post="306526"][/post]​

done

 

[700UW]

Lets see where does HP do its heavy maintenance?

Answer: It does not, Timco in Macon, GA does the 737s and 757s and TACA in San Salvador does the A320 Family Aircraft.

Where does US do its heavy maintenance?

Answer: US overhauls all its A320 Family in PIT and 50% of the 737s are done in CLT. Up until the second bankruptcy final offer contract was ratified all the A330, 767 and 757 were done in-house, now they are going to be done by ACTS.

Scope is the most important issue of a contract, no scope, no jobs.

11 Completed years is 3 weeks vacation.

Yes and the sick thing sucks, but we have taken three rounds of concessions in less then two years and had a contract abrogated by the bankruptcy court and voted in a final offer that still preserved some heavy maintenance.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

so you say IAM is better, I have been with hp for over six years I have 3 weeks vacation and nobody has been laid off til the other day when we became us airways seem like pretty good job security til now

 

[700UW]

Well I have been here for 17 years.

Your company outsources all heavy maintenance US does A320 in-house and 50% of the 737s, those mean jobs, if US went to the HP way of doing maintenance another 1,300 mechanic would be laid-off.

There is no such thing as job security in aviation.

I guess since you never been through the hard times like US employees have you would not understand that.

Understand this Scope means jobs, no scope equals no jobs.

And before the first two rounds of concessions three weeks vacation was accrued after five years of completed services.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

ok you win i am tired of hearing this answer Your company outsources all heavy maintenance US does A320 in-house and 50% of the 737s, those mean jobs, if US went to the HP way of doing maintenance another 1,300 mechanic would be laid-off.


you still havent answered my question

you think IAM can do better

 

[700UW]

The IAM has all ready done better.

We use to have industry leading contracts till the after effects of 9/11.

Just compare the scope language and you will get your answer.

 

[B737 MECHANIC]

The IAM has all ready done better.

We use to have industry leading contracts till the after effects of 9/11.

Just compare the scope language and you will get your answer.

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the truth of that is IAM is going to win not because they are better but because there are only 850 of us compared to 1000s of you guys so now all i have to do is hope that IAM doesnt can my ass and bring back all the furlong IAM guys

 

[delldude]

OUTSOURCING IS A SAD FACT OF LIFE THESE DAYS AND NO MATTER WHICH UNION WINS THE HEAVY CHECKS WILL GO SOME PLACE ELSE

[post="306507"][/post]​

ahhh....truth now comes out?