It doesn't matter to me who you are, I could care less. Seems to me, I have been on this BB a lot longer than you. So, if you think that making yourself out to be a BB victim is going to fly here - think again. Yet another antagonist tactic shot down....booya!
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It doesn't matter to me who you are, I could care less. Seems to me, I have been on this BB a lot longer than you. So, if you think that making yourself out to be a BB victim is going to fly here - think again. Yet another antagonist tactic shot down....booya!
Mr Red
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If this is voted in there will be no need for a grievance.
It sounds like AMFA and the TWU work similarly. The TWU Grievance Committee at the Local, reviews a grievance for merit. Did the issue violate the contract? Is the enough evidence to support the case? Is there past practice or precedent regarding the alleged violation. I am sure AMFA must go through a similar process. If the TWU does not believe the grievance has merit they will set up the arbitration date for the grievant to argue his case at his/her own expense.
This is the way they do it. Now the last grievance committee meeting I went to they had the member come in to Plead his case....
This is the way they do it. Now the last grievance committee meeting I went to they had the member come in to Plead his case....
Raptorman49
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Ok this is what I found, I'm not seeing how this says that an Employee has to fund his own Arbitration if the committee doesn't think they should represent him, Especially if your talking about a fired Employee.
Section 10 – Local Grievance Committee
If a grievance cannot be resolved by the Airline Representative and is being considered for arbitration, it shall
be presented by him to the chairman of the Local Grievance Committee. The Local Grievance Committee shall
consist of the Local Executive Council and the Airline
Representative presenting the grievance. The chairman
of the Committee shall be the Local President. The
Committee may also utilize Area or Shop Representatives, other Airline Representatives, and chosen legal
counsel in the course of their work. Upon receipt of the
grievance, the chairman shall convene the Local Grievance Committee and they shall resolve the grievance108 AMFA Constitution 2009 – Article XXIII
by proper procedure. Contract language grievances that
are to go to arbitration shall be paid for on a systemwide
pro rata basis from the affected airline’s collective
bargaining agreement.
Raptorman49
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Yeah but it matters to me WHO YOU ARE so please give me your name & stop hiding behind an alias & a keyboard, it's easy to be a tough guy when hiding like a little girl behind an Alias & a keyboard but being a MAN by letting everyone know who you really are takes a whole lot more effort, you know who I am, I'm not hiding so WHO ARE YOU, what's your name, I'm sure all of us would really like to know, If you are to much of a coward to give your real name then Please stop attacking real Men who don't hide behind a keyboard & an Alias ..... Fair enough ???
Keyboard warriors really make me sick to my stomach, I have yet to meet one in person who acted the same way in real life as they do behind a keyboard.
Nobody said anything about being a victim I just don't like cowards !!
Raptorman49
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If your talking about work rules then yes I agree if your talking about someone who was fired being represented then No I don't agree, As long as there is a Union on the property they are suppose to defend your job, contract or not.
Raptorman49
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Ok being fired for breaking company rules is not in the contract so were not talking about violating the contract were talking about if an employee get's fired for breaking a company rule will he be represented by the Union on their dime or not ??
As I said for example two Employee's get in a fist fight over an argument etc.
I am asking this question about the TWU, Teamsters & AMFA
Mr Red
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When there is cause ,your done .Same as a lawyer saying you have no case!
Raptorman49
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Hmmm I do know that several people have been represented for clear violations of company rules such as sleeping, fighting etc.
Sure hope i'm not paying for nothing cause if I am just one more reason for not liking Unions.
I know of two cases were the local has said they will not fund the arbitration. lets make this clear they will represent, just not pay for it.
xUT
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What did they do?
I had a friend that had a loaded gun in his car, fired and the IAM wouldn't spend money to fight it because it was against company policy, not to mention federal and state law.
IIRC,
Had another guy that had a loaded gun in his purse on company property, fired and the IBT wouldn't spend money to fight it because it was against company policy, not to mention federal and state law.
So, what did they do?
B) xUT
Raptorman49
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OK if there not going to pay for it then why use them ?? If you have to pay for your own defense then your better off with a Lawyer than some lame Union.
Also if your saying that the other Unions do the same thing then how is what AMFA did different then what they do ?
Sounds to me like your saying their all lame & not worth the dues money ..... If so I agree.
xUT
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That's what I think.
Wash, rinse and repeat.
One poster leaves and another pops up with the same mantra.
Take Care,
B) xUT
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